TGMPE Cata DiscussionFollow

You know, we haven't updated that thing in a while and with Cata coming up, we should probably think about doing so, or perhaps do as the druid forums(they stole our sock idea, btw) and recruit a couple more folks to help with it. What do you guys think?

Edited, Oct 2nd 2010 12:48am by Poldaran

Solid question.

I really don't think Filter follows mage-dum very well anymore, although I could be wrong as he transferred his mage away from our server into a different one to play with friends. He knows more about rogues now (the bastard). I think jaysql would be a solid addition to the mage section as well as idiggory (although he focuses on his DK a lot more now), they both have blossomed into good mages that know the class well.

As for the druid-sock idea, that was my doing, they asked me about it and I hooked them up with the info on what to do :-x


The general sticky is still relatively up to date, with a couple minor changes here and there. Unfortunately the mage section has been relatively dead for the last month or so (makes me feel sad, so I go look at the mage section on mmo-champion and help people there).

The fireball and arcane threads are both up to date so we shouldn't really need to worry about those ones, although it would be nice to get them stickied instead of relying on them to get brought up by some random person going through the TGMPE.

I think the starter thread that I made for the talent trees could be a decent template and we just have to make changes as Blizzard does during beta (as they move talent/abilities/trees around, etc).

These days the majority of my mage questions I take to Ano anyway since we raid/guild together etc.

Go for it guys, that's why I started the sock in the first place :)

PMs sent.

idiggory is in too.

Bump-a-roosky

We need to definitely have a focus on levelling, as Cata is around 70% new levelling process. Maybe some tips on specs or certain talents to strive for, and discuss how the different passives will effect them?
Other than that, I dunno what to start on. My specialty will pretty much always be Frost raiding, but other than that, a lot of mage stuff is general knowledge, or close to it.

I agree, leveling will definitely need to be an important section of TGMPE. The ratings of the talents will definitely be back, I wonder if there is a better way for us to do it though. I really wish that you could link images/make nice tables/etc. Overall, TGMPE truly belongs in an editable Wiki that will allow us to make tables/etc with it - unfortunately I have 0% wiki experience so there would be a learning curve, at least for me.

Gemming and glyphs will also be important to discuss (as Idig pointed out).


For leveling builds/etc, I've always been of the point to teach a man to fish, where we can give the talent lists and say what is good for what, but I want our readers/posters to make their threads with their ideas instead of making cookie-cutters for every point in the leveling experience.

Edited, Oct 6th 2010 2:30pm by Anobix

You know, at least for the images, we could always consider getting MageSock a premium membership. Or maybe we could convince the admins it needs one for the betterment of the site. We'd probably have to do some serious convincing, however, that we'd make it work well enough. Perhaps by starting with an initial period of our own investment to show how we'd use it followed by a pitch for it.

The only downside is that images would need to be updated every time something on them needs to be changed. It'd be a pretty heavy commitment.

Definitely agree, though I'm not against the idea of cookie cutters for end game builds.


Additionally, I figure we all want some time to play around with the talents before we go judging them. Assuming 4.0.1 drops this upcoming Tuesday, I'm thinking we continue our leisurely discussion here until we near the end of October, at which point I say we buckle down and get cracking.

Probably time for us to get back to this, though I must admit that I am still trying to figure out how to best deal with the whole AoE thing currently. This is one of those times where I really wish I ran a damage meter.

Last time I tried, Recount made my computer cry. Skada less resource intensive?

You know me. I tend to over think things sometimes.

Alrighty, I'm kinda sorta doing this, so close enough. I just wasn't sure if I should be dropping some blizzard or something after the BW/FS.

Even when you factor in threat reduction and TtW?

Elemental Freeze for shatter on a couple of the blizzard ticks, maybe?


Edited, Nov 3rd 2010 6:28am by Poldaran

With the melee dead, that's more DPS for you to do.

If you don't see me creating the three tree discussion threads on Monday, harass me into it. It's time to get this party truly underway. I think we've had enough time to play with talents, aside from not having a couple spells to go with them.

So are we going forward with re-creating a wiki for mages, or putting it into normal threaded mode ala the last few times?

http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki/Mages_101_(WoW)

Looks like what we can build from, and it looks like you (Pold) have done a bit of editing with it.

I looked at the history and remember a bit now. Wordaen put most of that together for us from the Mage Sock. I did a bit just to add in a section, but that was really it. We could definitely update that bad boy for Cata though, if you guys wanna do that.