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Hey how come you guys forgot to put up my ninja lotter warning like you usually to the other ninja lotters? but yet i can't get a dyna LS and have no relic armor or anything that i ninja lotted to show for it....anyone care to contribute?

i havent done alot of dyna but i know ppl usually just put their jobs....i was clueless i needed to put wut i wanted and no one informed me of this and i have been on runs on numerous occasions. i know i was in more than 1 LS w/ you Vyse or w/e your name is and you've never seen me ninja lot...why would i start now i'm on about 3 times per week.

it was dynamis-Buburimu
and i had blm and smn down when i lotted i was speaking w/ wut i thought was a LS officer and thats why i lotted late, as soon as i lotter he sent me a tell saying i can't lot yet.

secondly on like some i am no coward...someone who's tring to hide IS NOT GOING TO RUN TO WHITEGATE AND SEND PLAYERS HERE TO READ THEIR POST @#%^WAD.

Edited, May 27th 2009 9:58pm by Skyedemon

pay attention i said i asked an officer and thats why i lotted late....are you dumb? secondly the leader later appeared after the lot.

Edited, May 27th 2009 9:13pm by Skyedemon

i even tried to speak with the LS leader after it happend to tell them wut happend but seems he didn't care to find out weather or not if it was done on purpose

Edited, May 27th 2009 9:38pm by Skyedemon

you are 1 dumb fcuk.....THE LEADER WAS NOT THERE!!! i spoke with an officer which i misunderstood...no wonder there's no order on that LS no one fcuking listens or pays attention if you know wuts good for you you stfu cause you're making FULLWIPE look really dumb right now... and i n=have never every sent you a tell so why would i send you one now? i you the LS leader!?!? are you even an officer? or do you just need attention? please shut tha fcuk up...

all Namakemono said AFTER i LOTTED was "you shouldn't have lotted that".... by then it was done and dropped to the highest lotter....you're really nosy as far as the eye can see that all that it is if you ask me cause you're having nothing but diarrhoea from the wrong end of your body....

English is pretty hard to understand!

You said noone told you how listing your jobs run, and also that this isnt your first run with them. Does this LS have a forum that explains the rules?

Its the responisibilty of the member to understand the rules before even applying to the LS imo. Why would you join someone before understanding how they work?

And noone ever lots 10 seconds before it drops from a misunderstanding, thats intentional.

Even though I'm never online anymore to attend, I've been in FullWipe for over 2 years now. In that time, I've never once seen them be unfair. I've even seen them let people go into negative points for an item.

If you have the points, and you have your comment set right, you can lot. Thats all there is to it. Either you didn't have enough points, in which case you should have only had {Synthesis Materials} in your comment, or you had your comment messed up and Nama didn't know what you really wanted to lot.

And yes, it's clearly posted on the website how you should make your comments. If you didn't understand how to write your comment, talking to a leader for 15 seconds would remedy that....

Edited, May 28th 2009 2:45pm by ComputerSavior

.....lol it wasn't my 1st run...

Eh, IMO it is just as much skye's fault as it is an entire shell not being polite.

Just have to assume a few things here, and I know...we all know what assumptions mean. <.<

1.) Skye's fault, because clearly she didn't care enough about being able to obtain the gear to make sure she understood how to comment said gear properly. This is the reason LS have forums, ya know. Same reason products get shipped with manuals, same reason hair dryers come with huge as labels telling you not to stick the electric device in water, or not to stick your tounge to any part of said device, or other such idiocy-protection labels. Or the sign on McDonalds telling you the coffee is HOT and to take caution, because steam rising and the employee wrapping the cup in 3 napkins to barely hold onto it isn't easy enough to understand ITS @#%^ING HOT.

2.) Let me ask you this question, from one dynamis vet to others. How many of you check the linkshell list to see who else is in competition with you for the evening(in shells that use search comments occasionally or full time)? I don't know about you all, but even though I'm not a leader I was always checking search comments just to be curious. I'm going to assume here that in this linkshell, there are also members, non-leader members, who scan the competition out. Specially in a CoP zone. I'm getting to the point here.

Aside from a leader telling skye that her comment needed correction, why did none of the LS members send a tell or /p and ask if skye needed help setting up her comment, or figuring out if she needed help figuring out if she was even ELIGABLE to lot on anything? Furthermore, why did a leader not attempt to make a more thorough attempt via /tell? Even furthermore still, why did Skye not pay attention to /L which is where said leader warned of her incorrect search comment? I just find it hard to believe no one in the LS is to blame here, even if it is just a fraction of the blame. Evil(bad situations) thrives when good men do nothing.

3.) Third assumption. Mostly comes from #2's assumption. This LS has communication issues or people were all ready discriminating against Skye prior to this incedent in some way, enough to where no one would step forward to assist in correcting her search comment.

4.) Seems like the blame could be (skye)60/40(ls) here. Dyna shell vs. Skye. Skye, you failed by doing the one thing that is the most common plauge of all dynamis members: cruise control, mind is gone, little focus. This is most likely the reason you missed the /l message from a leader telling you your comment was wrong. Dyna shell, you failed by not taking the extra step to protect yourselves from item thievery/misunderstanding(s) and ensure a conflict won't happen. Somewhere down the line, both parties made some assumptions instead of talking things out and decided there was no other possible explination or way to handle the situation.

Seems to me like a simple apology and second chance with a little more trust and understanding is needed here. WHERE'S THE LOVE PEOPLE!? Don't make me have to get on BST just so I can shoot pink hearts of love from my crotch wearing a white subligar...

OH edit. Food for thought. What would it have taken to solve this issue in the first place? All it would have taken is a single person with a little care for a fellow LS member, to help sort out the search comment. What if Skye pretended to ignore them, or didn't listen to them, you ask? What if skye still ninja lotted on the item anyway, you ask? Well, you'd have a lot more umph behind the arguement that the LS is in no way at fault here for one thing. You'd also have an instance where an LS actually showed care for another person, enough to think about their well being and goals(such as getting new gear!). That'd definitely get you on the higher moral ground, which is almost always the deciding factor in any social disagreements in a peer-judged situation. Seeing as FFXI is all peer-based interaction, your moral position is definitely something you want to think about at all times.

Edited, May 30th 2009 1:25am by FenrirXIII

lmao weird every single post that I've made from 5/27/09 has been deleted by a mod....cowardly people...no wait i'm being ignorant : ( lol anyway no one told me i couldn't lot smn or blm it's weird how, had something like this happen to someone else everyone would've been quick to make a post of it with loads of evidence (photos) chat log and all. i play on 360 so unfortunately i can't post all that fancy stuff. ok so the moment the run starts the comments "are check" right? i'm guessing on the runs I've been on and they've seen my mistake no ones cared to correct me? (setup?)kinda defeats the purpose of having a lotting list don't you think? i mean i did say the reason i lotted last was because i was speaking to wut i thought was an LS officer i was never told i couldn't lot until after i lotted, he was the one that actually took the time out during the run to try and explain to me the lotting rules and it wasn't my 1st run.

I couldn't have said it better. Thank you Catwho.

Oh, I definitely agree with everyone here, it was skye's fault through and through. It's just disappointing to hear that an entire linkshell let the mistake 'slip through the cracks' so to say, instead of atleast ONE person speaking up. I was a little overboard saying the LS had that much fault/blame on them, but still. Even if it was Skye's fault for being ignorant of the rules, the LS members/leaders assuming everything is 100% with a still fairly new member(2-3 months new to ls) is a little on the dumb side. It's why some LS have various newbie rules, so they can watch the new person with more scrutiny to see if they will be a good fit for the ls by following/knowing rules, how their attendance is, and their overall attitude and personality.

not asking for sympathy just clearing the air which is exactly wut I've done. said my piece and got everything out there. people like you may be blind or just simply ignorant lol to the fact that it was an honest mistake and yes i agree i should of read the rules more carefully but based on wut both you and someone like Vysey who has been in more that 1 shell with me before and actually knows i'm not a ninja lotter....i'm not the lease bit worried. wuts done is done

Clearing the air? Noone knew anything about this (besides the people that were there) until you came out and announced it to the world.

And seriously, don't call us ignorant when you make the "Honest mistake" of lotting on something you were specifically told not to, 10 seconds before it would drop.

You can claim not to be a ninja lotter all you want, but regardless of why, that's exactlt what you did. Thanks for clearing the air for us.

......"no one knew about this besides the people that were there" o.O lie? people that weren't in the dyna LS knew about it....and not people from the other dyna LS i join...and yes you're ignorant lol deal with it

yes i agree i failed to read the rules correctly, i more or so browsed over it assuming most dyna LS's are the same so yes i agree that was my own fault, but i'm still saying i am not a ninja lotter, never was and never will be.

Mmm...I luckily missed Dyna/drama this day. I'm a Fullwipe member and I can attest to our rules on forums are very clear and it is posted rules for CoP runs and how to /seacom in CoP...we have a full post just for CoP zones!!! We also have points posted on forums...it is the members responsiblity to know if you have points, if you don't you don't seacom anything but Synthesis materials, if you can't check forums or you aren't sure of your points ask one of the officers prior to run. We're not in preschool, officers shouldn't be required to hold our hands. Fullwipe officers are very polite and helpful, I haven't seen them kick a single member until I heard about this. We've had fiasco's where people have made major fub ups and not kicked them so this was a major situation for you to be kicked.
Skye I didn't know you well so I can't say if you "are" or "aren't" a ninja lotter. I mean all the fingers point to you as being the guilty person and you posting this on forums made you look bad, I don't see Fullwipe posting this, you started this post. I think you planned on trying to make Fullwipe look badly and it backfired on you. I didn't experience this fiasco, so can't really say what really happened, but...I can say I know the officers/members well and we're not out to make people look badly.

LOL. This is Darkcloud on my real life homeboys screen name.

Check this out. I don't post on alla for like 1 year, I come back and I read ANOTHER complaint about skyebaby. lol.
All I read about is complaints about you ninja lotting. This always happens with you. Your real life friend allision already got banned for massive ninja lotting, and you want to follow in her footsteps. due to the amount of times I personally seen you ninja lot stuff, it isn't too far-fetched to hear Vvsey telling this story on alla.
Fullwipe let you join their LS? They deserved that ninja-lot. I like them and they are very skilled players and you never deserved to even attend events with them anyhow.

she has done that "I didn't know, I thought I could lot" (with 10 seconds left to pool drops) thing in the past before.

BTW Vvsey I'm doing great. How are you?

You're missing the point Sirflaw.

Lotting something with the intention of getting said item and not winning it does not condone you from doing it. And the fact that she attempted to take the belt the last 10 seconds before it dropped does make her a ninja-lotter, sorry.

(and if you even read Skyebaby's posts, she did lot it intentionally)

Edited, Jun 28th 2009 2:37pm by Vysey

not sure if you're just a jackass or just jealous that people come to my defense lol my lot was not an accidental lot...it was intentional i just wasn't aware that my comment was set wrong and that i wasn't allow to lot just yet. but i'm over it no big deal.