The Glorious Secretkeeper wrote:
See, this is an example from where certain linkshells gain their notoriety. When they enforce a very simple rule, i.e. turn up for three runs and it's all fair game, and then try to layer that with a sackholders' discretion vote, it can very easily be misconstrued as favouritism.
Seeing as this is one of the foremost complaints people have about SS, is it really any wonder when you try to enforce two mutually exclusive linkshell reward systems at the same time?
Aside from this instance occurring in 2007, DS had -- as of a few months later in 2008 -- a 'lot if you can wear it, one relic per run' rule.
Dynas did not perform well in Dynamis. Three months of bad work and an entitlement attitude did not inspire confidence in me, as a sackholder and shell co-leader. I'd ask current company to respect that assessment and be politely skeptical about both Dynas and myself. It is only my word against his, etc.
Dynas was clearly inaccurate about his assessment of his own attendance. He was a member of the shell for three months, not two (although he was effectively present for only two/three months as far as runs went) ... and his attendance was by no means exemplary.
He did not attend every run for which he had access, nor did he ask me to ask another shell to take him through cities to get Northlands access in a more timely manner -- schedules permitting.
I can only do what other people ask me to do, and because Dynas had never talked to me previously about his concerns, I can only say that they have appeared 'after the fact,' so to speak. It's a generally poor and unjust argument against DS all the way around -- especially when I was one of four/five sackholders that would have been happy to listen to grievances BEFORE the run and not after an item had dropped.
I always stress that I can't do anything about problems that aren't brought to my attention. And worse -- keeping concerns to oneself does no one any good. People aren't happy when they feel slighted, and leaders aren't happy when people don't follow instructions. Good sackholders work to manage these problems.
If anything, Dynas was a victim of his own silence -- not a hypothetical conspiracy designed to keep him from obtaining relic.
To clarify: 'Three runs and you can lot' does not mean that you are indefinitely guaranteed that right to lot (particularly if you've missed a lot of runs, etc.). Miracles provided the capital for the Dynamis runs. DS was run and continues to be run by Mir + a group of sackholders (myself included).
Keep in mind that all of this occurred before SS's/DS's general points, attendance, and policy overhaul. Miracles was not the sole leader of DS dynamis at that time, and certainly not the only enforcer of policy. The shell of 2007 and the shell of 2009 are radically different places. I'm proud of the policy changes since then, and I'm pleased overall with the shell's current direction.
I'd like to hear about any recent complaints. I was part of the group that overhauled SS's previously abused point system into a bid system. We keep separate points for separate events, and favor those who do the camping/legwork of camping HNMs as the recipients of the resulting drops (i.e. want Ace's? camp KV).
There are always -- and will always -- be disagreements. But I like to think we have about average, and perhaps even fewer than average as compared to similar linkshells.
As many people have pointed out previously in this thread, they like to play with their friends to enjoy the game. SS was my social shell before it was my endgame shell. In my honest opinion, I can do no better than to enjoy XI with some of my oldest in-game friends.
I've known Miracles and Mesiah for most of my XI career. SS continues to be my social/endgame shell of both choice and habit. To be brutally honest, I've been an SS sackholder so long that I can't even imagine being 'new kid on the block' in another linkshell ... nor do I imagine I'd enjoy playing if I had to constantly explain my erratic RL schedule. ._.;
I'm playing with friends who know me, after all.
Edit: Spelling. Edited, Sep 5th 2009 7:13pm by Ezzelin