You did really well until you said Catholics aren't Christians. Big deduction of points.
Ask the hitler youth... I mean Pope. According to him, protestants aren't christians. So either the protestants aren't christians, or catholics aren't christians, since they don't lump themselves together, ever. Plus, catholicism has become a polytheistic religion, something almost all protestants hate about them. (least the ones down here in the ignorant south.)
We have laws banning suicide. What sense does that make? Laws against drugs... None of these things harm others, why are they an issue? Same thing goes for religious rights. There is some kind of unstated boundary that allows intrusion based on common beliefs and support. It may seem stupid, but the existance of our system is evidence enough.
Suicide and drugs have no logical basis for being illegal, along with prostitution. The only justification is religion says they should be. Get rid of suicide laws, and we will have doctors able to do it cleanly, safely, and painlessly. Ever met someone who tried to kill themselves and failed? Jumped off a building that wasn't high enough? Almost overdosed? Shot themselves but missed the right part of the brain? Not pretty, not happy, and not cheap for their families, either. Plus, if it's legal, the suicidal would receive counciling and help before they could do it, which I'm sure would lower the number to start with.
"Drugs are bad" is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Many are harmless, literally. Weed has no negative side effects, except lowered fertility. (Which is entirely undone with no permanent damage 4-6 months after you stop smoking.) Slightly impaired response time means you shouldn't be driving, but you shouldn't be driving drunk, either. (Plus, an accident at 15 mph while high is a lot better than a drunk driving accident at 60 mph.) Halucinogenic mushrooms have no negative side effects. Don't operate heavy machinery while your steering wheel may become a giant eye, but that should be obvious. And both of those are impossible to overdose on, because you'd need to ingest a pile of either roughly the size of of a volkswagon.
And even the ones that have negative side effects aren't much worse than what alcohol and tobacco do to you. Most of the deaths and health problems not related to addictive use that happen are due to the unregulated nature of drugs. If they were legal and regulated by the FDA, there'd be a massive decline in deaths due to contaminated drugs or overdose. Look at legal prostitution in nevada. Drug abuse, way down, violence, almost non existant (since the police protect rather than arrest prostitures) STDs, almost non existant. (since the employers provide protection, weekly tests, and fantastic health insurance) Do you know how much of our tax money comes from tobacco and alcohol taxes? Imagine how much good all the cocaine, canabis, and mushroom taxes would do. And how much money we wouldn't waste
arresting drug dealers, raiding south american countries, imprisoning the college kid with the dime bag, or the lives lost in the DEA every year.
Louis/SK, I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. He was a pacifist and radical promoter of equality. Also happened to be the only offspring of the living God. I can see no logical reason to separate His teachings from government, besides the fact that the general population isn't really interested in equality, charity, compassion, forgiveness, and reconciliation
Well, I could bring up how unpacifist he sometimes was. Such as when he saw people loaning money in the temple, J went home (not pick a stick off the street, didn't take one of the apostle's swords, no he premeditated it.) made a scourge (a whip with pieces of jagged metal or sharp stones for ripping) came back, and used it on the lenders. Or where he tells people who believe in him to sell everything they own and give it to the poor. My pastor's new mustang seemingly disagreed. But if we get into holy books we could keep going for years. Frankly this isn't the place for this kind of conversation anyway, I don't want to make you think of this crap when playing a game.
The truly faithful people improve quality of living, and never look down on you for not contributing.
The reason religion and government have to be seperate (besides not everyone being the same religion) is that while there are good people like you who believe that, if not most, then at least a large chunk of religious people (any religious people) do not feel that way. Almost every christian down here in the south, and seemingly every religious person with any authority (Hagert, hagee, falwell, robertson, bush, most popes including the current one, Bin Laden, any head of islam, etc.) are the most hate filled, greedy, amoral bastards you will ever meet. And they lead the rest of the religious to do horrible amoral things, because "God/The Bible/The Koran/Koresh/Book of mormon, says to!" And they get away with it, and get people to follow them, because it's religion.
If everyone in religion were the idealic, happy, peaceful epeople they claim to be (and I'm sure you are) then religion in the government, backed up by logic (stupid stuff like, "No eating anything not kosher" wouldn't be made laws) wouldn't be bad. But unfortunately, that's not human nature. And since it's not, and religion, just like polical party, philosophy, nationalism, and ethnic background do far more harm than good, Religion has to stay out of government for the good of mankind.
Anyway, yeah. 7 swift belt pops, 6 swift belts. The 6 that dropped were all in new moon, the one that didn't, wasn't. Seems like new moon's the time for swift belts.
HS, I'll come help ya with Charybdis if I'm told the time beforehand. Snarl ought to be helpful, and I can hold it for quite some time. (RDM/BST is supposed to be able to solo it, so I'm sure BST/WHM can keep it busy.) Edited, Nov 11th 2008 10:49pm by louispv