BSTs are normies now - good or bad thing?Follow

On the surface, it would seem that the arrival of Abyssea and Atma and new jugs has transformed the life of BST into something much better than it ever was before.

But is this really the case?

In the old days there were 15 jobs. Yet I always felt there weren't really. I always felt there were 14 jobs and BST.

BST was something special and set apart from the rest. The BST community was unique and tight-knit and of course the legend of 'BST SUXX' was born.

This isn't about nostalgia really - although there may be a bit of that.

This is more about how BST was something different then than a bog standard DD with a pet which arguably is what it is today.

If Abyssea brought party acceptance and powerful pets for BST it also ripped the heart out of what BST stands for - which is to charm.

We all love to talk about how modern FFXI (and Abyssea especially) produces players who don't know how to do their job but with BST that really is the case.

The concept of converting for example is totally alien to most modern BSTs. In fact most things to do with charm are.

They know only to join low level GOVs with jug pets then mid level GOVs with jug pets then Abyssea with jug pets - and why not? The EXP is excellent, they level quickly. So is it really a bad thing?

To me it is in a way.

I realise of course that BST has changed because the game has changed. No longer is 4k an hour soloing acceptable to most people. I get that.

But still - BST to me today feels like just another DD now. When I first started this game my main on my taru was DRG and everyone said that wasn't a pet job - just a DD job with a pet that assists. I can't help feeling like that in parties with BST now.

Here comes the nostalgia bit. I liked the old days, I liked the massive trains as you ran for the zone. I liked the thrill of charm wearing off and having to stay calm and not panic and deal with it. I liked the unique feel of the job.

I realise that you could try and recreate that today but it would be kind of false to do so.

I think the point I'm making is that sadly, BST does not suxx anymore. BST are normies now, just like everyone else. They have been accepted. Just like so many BST wanted for so long.

For those people who regret the changes in BST, I guess it's true what they say - the second worst thing in the world is not getting what you want...

Oh fond memories, but seriously, the Bst and everyone else is a myth. There were numerous other eras

The Bst, Blm and everyone else era. (Blm had to solo to level because people would not SC and Magic Burst)

The early TOA era - Dual Wielders, Brd & Rdm Era)

The TOA end era - Two Hand piercing weapon with 2xbrd and a rdm era (Sams using Polearms because of those pink exploding balls of XP called Colbri)

Now the Abyssea era - Nin+War, Whm, Blu and Blm/brd only seal parties now.

VW is just the monkey poop throwing era atm. Get as cloase to 18 different jobs and throw spells, JA, etc until procs happen. Collect your logs and repeat until the legendary body armor actually drops.

So Bst's welcome to the party. The Samuarai who used to be on the bench can thank the recent new WS for their chance to get off the bench.

1. yes removing charm was the worst thing ever, i used to complain alot on the offical forums but not one dev ever responded so i gave up.

2ndly @ Tepogue's quote I disagree i got my old 75 blm char to 75 during cop era hes a mule now.
Anyways i never once soloed blm, back in those days rng and blm were the only DD jobs anyone wanted they would spend 24 hrs+ making a pt looking for one, man ppl were retarded back then lol.

edit: grammerz




Edited, Jan 11th 2012 3:29pm by koromaseraph

Getting a bst to 99 and purchasing pink gear does not make someone a bst. A true bst with Atma of the Ducal Guard can solo a lot of stuff in abyssea. Most won't take the time to get DG. I have been a bst for years and personally don't care if there are lot of bsts. I'm a good bst, which allows me to take full advantage of it's uses in Dynamis.

Charm wasn't very useful??? Are you kidding me? Clearly you sucked at the job or never really played as a full charm BST because that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Aside from really fantastic RDMs, no other jobs in the game pre 75 could solo an NM 12+ levels above them. And where RDM soloing was mostly limited to higher levels, a BST could solo insanely difficult mobs at nearly any level with charmed pets.

Why can't you charm pets in abyssea that you could otherwise charm anywhere else in the game? Because we would slaughter literally everything with almost no cost using charmed pets. Clearly charm is not useful at all.......so not useful that it would clearly break abyssea, which is why its not allowed.

I'm an old old Bst who's "done it all" or a lot of it anyway. I find this sort of redundant. Yeah, sacks of pet food and piles of jugs is the "now" but it's fairly similar to ganking Hakutaku or anything else; Just send piles of natural pets at it.

To be fair there kind of IS a difference... Not all NM camps had/has the natural pet capacity to do that. Now you carry your arsenal with you but I hope you sort of know what I mean.


Edit: Though I DO miss charm. I thought I read there was to be an update or an update already occurred where we'd have a broader range of charmable mobs... Like reintroducing Manticores or something as charmable. I'd hate to have the Abby community even more upset about BSTs "Taking over" but I'd damn sure love the ability to charm some abby mobs. It's only fair to us. It's like saying. "Whoa there warrior. You are in abby now. Leave that GA behind and take this dagger."



Edited, Jan 15th 2012 9:36pm by Dufflite

I'm not offended that bst has become popular. Its not hard to tell when you come across a good bst vs a bad one. thats common for any player no matter the job.

When you're right, you're right. I agree with you.

good points about how to still play oldschool bst... but curse your animated gif avatar...

I wasn't even paying attention to it reading this forum post when 5 year old walks up and wonders why his hero mario is hitting princess peach!

I knew BST had become popular, but I didnt realise just how popular BST had gotten until a couple of nights ago.

I was messing around doing '/sea all' and on my server the only job that had more players online than BST was WHM, BST was the second most played job on the server at that time! My eyeballs nearly fell out.

Its a far cry from the days of old where we had to grind away solo for months on end, because nobody would have a lolbst in the party, and actually finding a BST within your level range to team up with was a rare treat.

I kind of miss the old days from a nostalgic point of view, but on the other hand I'm loving all the big boosts the job has recieved since the old days, and that always attracts new players, gotta take the rough with the smooth I suppose.

On another note, I really miss the old price of BST supplies! Pet food has more than doubled over the last few months I have been away, I have had to resort to levelling a cooking mule lol.

Edited, Feb 6th 2012 12:23am by GenryuOfBahamut