Siviard's Blog: The Guttler ProjectFollow

I would be down for sponsoring that, but Yoshime still hates my guts.

/cry

Transfer over to Shiva, join LoTB and Rhukha's NeoBSU sky LS and I'll fill you in on ALL t3h gory details! MUUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH /evillaugh

It's that simple....transfer to Shiva, you get drama filled story!

Stay where you are....no drama filled story for j00!

Constant personal drama aside.

Go go guttler(s) and such.

OT: I want to do nyzul isle :(.

Edit: Triple post :(



Edited, Jan 31st 2008 7:24am by Tomlionhart

hey siviard, good luck on your Guttler project!
you should hear Rhukha's advice
I got my guttler through speed belt drop from KSNM99
you should consider that too you know, who knows if it will drop anyway ?

I'm lurking and just curious - if one shell is social and the other event, then why the drama? On Unicorn we have the same thing, but without the drama.


p.s. Because this is my first comment in the thread, I have to also add, good luck with getting Guttler!

Welcome to the club.


I've been noticing this going on a fair bit recently. Seems like we have another rate-troll.


But it really doesn't matter. Forum trolls come and go. And at least we aren't like some forums with a resident troll who posts negative stuff in every thread and/or tries to derail it.

Sivi??? Drama???

Say it 'aint so, man!

<3

:P

Hey Siviard,

My brother forwarded me the link to your thread and I just wanted to drop in and say a few things.

First off, my hat's off to you for undertaking this. Its gutsy to try to upgrade a relic legitimately (i.e., no botting or gil-buying) in the first place, but to have it publicly tracked deserves a lot of credit. I wish you all the luck possible that you are successful, and I will definitely be checking back in on your progress.

I just recently began putting into place my own little operation to upgrade an Aegis for my PLD. I consider this my ultimate personal goal in the game, above and beyond everything else, so believe me when I say I sympathize with what you're going through. :-)

A few words of advice:

Time. Is. Money. I cannot stress this enough. You need to look at everything you are doing to make money and figure out what gives you the best return for your time. Here is a good example: My THF is only 19, so farming up 12 tree cuttings takes me about an hour and a half. Conversely, I can hit up my favorite farming spot for NPC-sellable drops and walk away with 50-60k an hour, which will allow me to purchase 2+ stacks of cuttings from the AH in the same amount of time it would take me to farm up a single stack on my own. This allows me to maximize my time/money ratio (and I am sponsoring some else's farming efforts, so the economic cycle continues and we both benefit). Look at all the things you are doing and prioritize where you can make the most gil in the least amount of time.

Focus on three main area to make your gil: farming, crafting, and gardening. I may have missed it somewhere along the way, but I don't think anyone on this thread has talked much about the financial benefits of a successful gardening operation, and I cannot stress enough how important this is. The only major time investments required are your initial set-up (purchasing the pots and furnishings, setting up, planting) and the end-result harvesting.

Along the way, you will need to check your pots *religiously* (twice a day is definitely recommended), but once you get in a groove, you can check them very quickly. To give you an idea, I have 160 pots going right now (my main plus 15 mules, 10 pots each) and I can check all 160 pots (twice each) in no more than 15-20 minutes. I have made this part of my daily morning/evening routine, and you *must* be diligent about it, but trust me, the rewards are great, and it can all happen while you are off doing other things.

In terms of crafting, I agree 100% with the poster(s) who said that consumables are a great way to raise some gil. There are some items that people will always need (ninja tools, food, silent oils, prism powders, etc.), so farm the supplies, craft the products, and sell, sell, sell.

I would also suggest picking one or two main crafts to level to 100+ on your mules (Smithing and Clothcraft are great) and make a very concerted effort to HQ some desirable items (Haubergeon +1, etc.) It definitely requires time and money to get going, but again, you can walk away with a nice lump sum of gil if you are able to get it done. You can use some of the money you make from fishing/farming/gardening to invest in leveling your other crafts, then make your main money to purchase ancient currency using the profits from your crafting.

Again, best of luck to you and I'll check in on your progress from time to time. If I work up the intestinal fortitude to create a blog/thread to post my own progress on my Aegis, I'll be sure to let you know. Hope you don't mind if I call it "The Aegis Project". :-)

Also, I'll send you a PM with some great farming spots I have found -- you're on a different server, so we won't be competing, but I want you to be aware of where/what they are to help you generate some fast gil.

Take care dude -- go get that axe!

Fendamir
75 PLD
Ifrit Server -- KnightsoftheRound

Edited, Feb 4th 2008 12:51pm by Fendamir

Well, BeastsGoneWild has their first ever Dynamis run tonight. Dynamis-Bastok and it's being sponsored by Lomont (the other BST from LoTB upgrading a Guttler) but the only reason why he's sponsoring it.....he had a retard moment and dropped his Relic Axe. LMAO

LOL! How much did you have to pay for your first upgrade?

Regarding the fishing aspect of making Gil.... I managed to get 100 Fishing and complete the Ebisu quest. That quest is the single most difficult quest in the entire game. Only working your bollocks off solo to fund your own relic is harder. Getting a LS to help you get currency to fund a relic is nothing in comparison to completing Ebisu quest.

I went 1/125 on the Liks and about 1/300 (can't remember exactly) on the Gugrusaurus before getting the "drops" from them.

And what now? I sold my Lu Shang for just over a million some time back. But there is little to no market on my server for the Ebisu fish. I occasionally check the AH for people buying them and I have come across a couple of people. But they are hardly ever online (maybe mules) and I only ever managed to sell any to just one guy. And after selling him around 20 Gugs he got the bloody drop and had already got the item for Lik before I found him needing stuff.

I still have a few Gugs on a mule (around 12) which I may try to sell in Selbina while afk.

Any update? Also what's requirements for bst ls? I have a 28 bst I would like to get in (I just transfered to shiva) my ingame name is ronti

Sorry I haven't posted in here in a while. There hasn't been a whole lot of progress with regard to my buying up currency.

INSTEAD....I'm farming!

BeastsGoneWild Dynamis LS has had their first 2 runs....lets just say the melee group are dumber than boxes of cow manure. Stupid ToAU has melted their minds into MUSH. They keep following the puller and mages around instead of staying back and waiting for mobs to come in. By doing THAT.....AoEs keep hitting the BLMs and killing them....including me. DONG 74 BLM.....I lost 17k exp last night because of this. Trust me I'm none too happy about it.

I know it'll get better though...our 2nd run was a vast improvement of our very first run, but the damn melee group will need to get their act together because I'll be sponsoring a Dynamis-Windurst run here pretty soon, and last thing I want them to do is to fuxx things up for everyone.

REMEMBER! Everytime a melee follows the BLM party, God kills a kitten!

No points system in place currently....HOWEVER...I could have 1 BLM in each party, and if someone messes up. D2! LOL

Hmm, that actually sounds like a good idea. I'll implement it for our next run and see how it goes.

WELL....the threat to deny ppl AF worked like a charm, and we had a very smooth Dynamis-Windurst run.

Had 2 bad pulls, one at the Auction House that we eventually cleaned up, and then one final bad pull at the end when we were rushing to get another time extension.

Sadly, we're now 3 runs in, and we've YET to have a 100cc drop. I sponsored this run too and came out on the losing end regarding coins. I'm not worried, though. The problems we had with this run can be remedied with more numbers for the run. We only has 21 entering, and considering those low numbers, we didn't do too bad at all. We're getting better, that's for sure.

Drops from Dynamis-Windurst: AF - NIN, WHM, DRK

T. Whiteshells obtained - 65

I'm now 35 coins short of completing first upgrade. I won't be sponsoring another run for a couple weeks, so I may just farm and buy up the last bit to complete the first upgrade, then farm to sponsor a Dynamis-San d'Oria run and begin to accumulate those currencies.

I don't mind the minor losses.

One thing I've always wanted to do was to run my own Dynamis LS and help it grow into a dominating force. I enjoy helping others get AF for their jobs, and also enjoy helping others who are upgrading weapons get that chance to do by sponsoring runs for my LS.

Also, we have a new website for BeastsGoneWild Dynamis LS being set up and prepped. Once I have the address for the site, I'll post it here so people can check it out, see how well (or poorly) we've done, etc.

Im glad the threat of no AF worked. After you get some more members I'm sure you'll be running even smoother.

Good luck, Ill be around to check in just out of curiosity.

Well, we had a VERY SMOOTH Dynamis-San d'Oria run last night....but boy did we screw up the Mega Boss pull! LOL Chalk it up to inexperience I suppose. Two critical mistakes that I think cost us the win last night.

1. Our puller didn't bother with clearing out the area next to the Chocobo Stables.

2. The person (who shall remain nameless now because he's now the official BeastsGoneWild LS MPKer) trained the entire Mega Boss train right on top of us and we then proceeded to wipe HORRIBLY.

Anyhow, we're now 0/4 runs without a 100cc coin dropping and we've now had our first run that didn't yield a single piece of AF. Lomont, the sponsor, got 95 coins, which isn't too bad......but we still didn't get the win, which hurts.

BTW, BeastsGoneWild website is UP! www.freewebs.com/BeastsGoneWild check it out and if by chance you register, let it be knows that you're a guest onry.

Yea some of the WS are unimpressive, but it's more content for people that want to be the best they can. Even if you dont use the WS, the wepons themselves are still good. Good enough to spend all that time and money on? Thats up to the player to decide.

I'm curious how much accuracy down a mob receives from onslaught. Couldn't find it on any site.

Edited, Feb 25th 2008 3:21pm by Astrojack

There is a bst on cerberus called Epigram with a guttler, not that it matters, I just saw him and thought it was cool, then I turned green and went on a bst rampage.

Yeah, you're right. They aren't broken for the amount of work and the rarity of having one. I think some relic weapons are more game altering than others though. Having a gjallarhorn bard, aegis pld, or even an apocalypse drk allows for different strategies than before.

I was wrong before, I guess the attack increase after Onslaught is only 10%. Still better than nothing. :D And yeah, I saw no info on what the acc down effect is. Some one would have to do some tests in Ballista to figure that one out I'm afraid.