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I think I'd try to get a party for it, I'd be bored to tears really... And if I died after an hour of kiting back and forth I'd get so angry I could kill a penguin.

Mama can be done this way in all but Jugner (S). Theres the 'corner fence' that mobs think is 90 degrees but has a 45 degree piece in it in Past Ronfaure, and you can stand 'inside' the corner (but still ~outside~ the fence) and mobs will path to the inside of the fence. In Present Ronfaure theres a long straight fence if you follow the wall north from the sandy zoneline to the corner, stand on the wall side by a little bush at the north end and walk to and from the wall, and this same fence piece with the same behavior appears on the north side of the Present Jugner outpost, and stand on north side of the fence at the east end. Grab a piddly local mob to drag around until you find the spots.

Feu, on the other hand, can pretty much only be done in Present Xarc, at the trees up the ramp behind the telepoint and to the extreme left. Its a nasty pull from just about anywhere unless you bring some powder boots, but make sure you stop to let him take a swing at you every 20 seconds or so or he'll get skittish.

You'll find that between the nearest to the wall tree and the wall itself is actually better than just between the trees.

Actually, it can be done in the Glacier as well (and had to do it once there). On the lowest level of the Glacier near the NM golem is a Pso'Xja tower and west of it are some rocks against the wall. The position is the center of J-8.

Same strategy, except your opportunities in this zone are limited. You can only pull the VNM if he spawns down by that NM golem. If he's anywhere else, you're SOL.

frog baseball has commenced. 1 down, no casualties, about anyone with a pulse should be able to do this if you can get the pull off. that's the only iffy part.

Easier option for the Ram: Wait until the first ~week after an update, join an ally shouting for it, get all 8 kills in under 3 hours. (And a grey abyssite in the process.)

My 107 DMG Ultimatum really wished the nice people on BG had popped Chloris already. If Chloris has Sexy Drops(tm), should be easy as hell to get groups together for Colibridemption.

Edited, Jun 27th 2010 3:21pm by firefeng

I thought no one knew how to pop Chloris yet?

Also, I HIGHLY doubt that it's a T3 VNM. There are at least 2 (I think 3, but not certain) NMs in Abyssea-Mea that are needed for the Emyprian weapons and there has typically only been T3 VNM per "area".

Wondering what peoples opinions are on:


and this


The occ. attack 2-3 times sounds like a lot of fun for Blood Weapon (48 delay slower than Bahamut's though... but double the damage. Plus I don't have Bahamut's) but I don't know if it'll be viable for normal-use. Say merit-party style.

The other one is of course, damn sexy and straightforward.

Also, is there really any definitive answer on which Severance is best? I like the sound of the acc+12 one, but what's that like compared to say, the one with "lowers def+10" and 3 more damage? This was already answered in a diff thread.

Gah so many options. I'm interested in Magian Scythe now. But I don't want any that involve really difficult trials. ie. trials that need to kill T3 VNM's or use Abyssea.

Really interested in an occ. att. 2-3 times weapon, for any of my jobs, and I'll prolly favour the job which can use the best occ. 2-3 weapon (unless they all suck). Attacking fast freakin' rules.

I realise this is very similiar to another existing thread, but nobody really talked about the occ. att. 2-3 scythe (as far as I could see). Also I want to hear opinions from people who have done a Maleficence or Severance on how long it will take and how much effort it requires to obtain.

thx <3

Edited, Jun 29th 2010 5:34pm by LordFaramir

WS delays will kill the OA3, but it'd be damn fun and may upgrade to 2-4 or potentially higher further down the road, extreme zerg utility from that point forward.

Just do remember that 5% of the 113/502's melee speed and TP gain is hypothetical. Swinging faster != Swinging more etc, and calling it 'like having 5% haste' is a huge faux pas. tl;dr of every post I've ever made on this subject is: You'll always be 5% closer to WSing again than a 528... unless you ATP, meditate, the mob dies, or you autotarget something else. You can't gain 5% of a hit, its all or nothing. If you're in a merit situation or anything that dies in less than ~90 seconds, you might as well ignore the delay difference.

Maybe if and when something breaks loose with the new elemental WS and they get decent damage (HAH), the OA3 might be able to spam them on physical resistant mobs.

Apparently MAB does affect our new WS, but I still don't feel bad about turning down three Abyss Cuirasses. When motherf*cking Shadow of Death does more damage, something is terribly wrong.

The OA3 is more tedious to get too, but it doesn't require going after that pixie bitch who's about 3x more hax than most other Tier 3s.

Srsly, I had a leader of some shell tell me "Well, we do Ruthven with seven people, but Verthandi we need fourteen or so...", not to mention she has f*ck-all for other drops.

Edited, Jun 29th 2010 12:45pm by Raelix

Mmm I thought the 113/502 would win, but it must be pretty close when it comes to say 105/528 (or was it 105/528? or was it 107/528? gah, too many scythes!)

Then again does the comparison factor in additional TP gain? Such as meditate / abs-tp. Gah, I suppose there really are so many variables to take into account (esp. with a job like DRK which has a fairly inconsistent, but occasionally substantial TP-gaining spell). But the OA3 has a lil zerg value for us cheapo's who still don't have any better weapon. And I often find myself in situations on DRK where I'm using Blood Weapon without much more than 33% haste.

_(._.)_ basically, how much of a b*tch is OA3 to get, realistically?

The last is the 450 buffalo no? the Irrlict being for the other Maleficence? wiki's format makes it hard to understand x_x

also, aren't 3 Barbastelle kills also needed for the first trial?

Anyway, all these kills sound fairly painful.... (._.) 'dragons' on wiki links only to Dahaks. That can't be right, right? That'd just be mental.

Edited, Jun 29th 2010 9:06pm by LordFaramir

I'm pretty sure they mean the family of "dragons," and not dragons specifically.

The family of dragons covers everything you thing: wyverns, dahaks, amphitheares (probably), wyrms.

Dahaks (and similar mobs) are the only dragon-type mobs.



This is like saying: if a trial says "kill birds", you don't need to find normal birds, you can kill bats because they're in the bird family.

Puks also count as dragons, which makes that one not so terrible. The buffalo bit is what really sucks. There are about ten of those silly things in the entire game. It doesn't leave a lot of options to play around with.

I was thinking about getting into this and get myself a high damage scythe. I killed the silly bat three times and got sick and tired of trying to pop the damn skeleton. I've always hated camping NMs, camping the same ones over and and over again only to get nothing worthwhile out of it just sucks. It's something like 35 NM kills to get Ultimatum, and this shi*t just keeps going after that. Honestly, I'd rather kill a stupid number of "Random Mob X" than try to get one specific mob to spawn. It'd be nice if there were multiple paths to the same weapon. Let work towards it the way we prefer.

With some quick maths, assuming 1minute per kill for every monster, and 2minutes for the buffalo (this is probably too lenient), excluding the NM's you're looking at over 61hours to get the OA3 scythe.

Bit over 2hours per day every day and you'll obtain within one month. Or 8hours a day and you'll have it in a week. (based on 61hours requirement).

This thing is a f@#$load more work than I'm willing to put into it ._. I'll do it if Skyra, Siralin or anybody else decides to go for it (or the other Maleficence) with me. Seems like the only way to really do this is to do it with other people, solo it's just staggering.

On the bright side, assuming 72exp per kill - you're going to get 234,000exp by the end of it. Enough to get DRK to 80 from 75, and have a couple merits leftover.

Anyway. I'd be willing to work on it if I can make a 'static' for it. Any unicornians interested? ._.

I am working on the OA2-3 time Scythe. But I do not play many hours a day. But I would be happy to kill them with you. I should be on Arcana by tonight.

I think you need to do both. Then the last trial will determine which Scythe you get. Although I am pretty confused to.

Anyone on Leviathan then? :D

Which scythe you doing? i'm in the middle of arcans going for one of the multi attack scythes.

In before "Oh, I have to kill placeholders?"

You know the best scythe may very well be the 105DMG, STP+7 Reckoning which is easy-mode 5hit and almost a 6-hit out of the box on non /sam.

It's obtained from about one day's worth of easy "X amount of weaponskills on X mob" trials so keep that in mind before you embark on months and months of work for another scythe.

Edited, Jul 1st 2010 1:38am by luxv

That sounds pretty good actually. I wonder how that one flew under the radar (well, 113Dmg/503delay is kind of hogging the spotlight, it's just retarded to get)

ffxiclopedia doesn't seem to have the new trial info up yet. Is there a more complete source you guys are using to plan your trials?

Wiki doesn't have any info on it :( Do you have a link to whats required in the trial? Sounds niiiice.

Is this an Abyssea weapon?