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#7802 Apr 03 2012 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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There's eels involved somewhere, right?
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Yes, getting the guy with THIRTY THOUSAND POSTS to respond to something is a feat worthy of praise.

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On an unrelated note, I never played Mass Effect when it first came out. I started about 2 months ago when my friend loaned me his copy of ME2. So another friend has lent me ME1, so I'm playing through that, then importing to 2, then likewise to 3.


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#7805 Apr 03 2012 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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I keep meaning to pick up tales of graces f, thanks for the reminder
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Yes, getting the guy with THIRTY THOUSAND POSTS to respond to something is a feat worthy of praise.

Smiley: laugh


On an unrelated note, I never played Mass Effect when it first came out. I started about 2 months ago when my friend loaned me his copy of ME2. So another friend has lent me ME1, so I'm playing through that, then importing to 2, then likewise to 3.


This will eat a lot of my time. Wish me luck.
make sure you quit me3 instead of beating it, or what was an amazing series will feel like the titanic, wherein what was an amazing journey will be marred by a memory that only lets you remember the disaster thay was the ending


Edited, Apr 3rd 2012 4:19pm by Finuve
#7807 Apr 04 2012 at 12:16 AM Rating: Good
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Finuve wrote:
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Yes, getting the guy with THIRTY THOUSAND POSTS to respond to something is a feat worthy of praise.

Smiley: laugh


On an unrelated note, I never played Mass Effect when it first came out. I started about 2 months ago when my friend loaned me his copy of ME2. So another friend has lent me ME1, so I'm playing through that, then importing to 2, then likewise to 3.


This will eat a lot of my time. Wish me luck.
make sure you quit me3 instead of beating it, or what was an amazing series will feel like the titanic, wherein what was an amazing journey will be marred by a memory that only lets you remember the disaster thay was the ending


Edited, Apr 3rd 2012 4:19pm by Finuve
I don't understand why you're letting a weak ending mar the rest of the story. It was always going to be difficult to end the Mass Effect trilogy, and while I'm not thrilled by it either, it's an ending at the very least (unlike the hash job that was KOTOR 2's "ending"). Everything that led up to it was amazing, so I'm going to focus on that.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 2:18am by Lucinus
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#7808 Apr 04 2012 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
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Even though it's not a great ending, I could have accepted it if all of your choices didn't result in the exact same cutscenes. I blame it all on EA and not BioWare.

If one does ignore the last 15 minutes of the game though, it's easily the best in the series and I'm sure my playtime will approach that of Skyrim.
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#7809 Apr 04 2012 at 12:53 AM Rating: Good
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pre-spoiler thoughts on ME3 ending:

final set of battles (on insanity 1st time through, of course) were awesome, difficult, and serious nightmare fuel. the closest i've come to being scared by entertainment media since i was 5. amazing atmosphere.

spoiler thoughts on ME3 ending: don't understand what everyone's problem with it is. your choices made tons of difference throughout the story. surely you weren't expecting every minor choice you made to be reflected in the ending? my 1 qualm is i didn't understand how to choose at the end, but considering i planned on replaying it anyway, i didn't care.

spoiler free thoughts on ME3: action/gameplay wise, best game of the series by far. story-wise, amazingly well done (after clunky beginning) for what was essentially a writer's nightmare (stakes too high to matter, too much fanservice loose end bullsh*t to include, main plot machinery setting the pace so high that enjoyable narrative action that includes significant time and freedom barely has any room, etc). i think ME2 was the biggest improvement of the series, and ME1 still provided the most awe, story-wise.

i'm happy with the trilogy.
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#7810 Apr 04 2012 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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p.s. want to gloat that the giant hegel pun at the end was not lost on me. clever.
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#7811 Apr 04 2012 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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I started this analogy before, the way it is to me is imagine the passengers on the titanic, I bet the journey was incredible for all of them, but in the end, all they could remember was the ending, and even if they tried to think of the good times on the boat, all they would be able to manage was thinking about how it ended

a bit over dramatic? maybe, but its how I feel

I beat ME1 and ME2 5 times each, I played one of those characters through 3, and I find it impossible to play through as any of the other 4 knowing that they will all come to the same exact plot hole ridden failure of writing in the last 10 minutes that only varies by the color of the explosion

ME3 did a lot right elsewhere, but it still wasnt as good as the first, especially in the story telling department, but the adventure/discovery wasnt there, sidequests were easily the worst of the 3 (go to solar system, right click, then click on planet, right click again) and how annoying it was that youd have ten of these quests at any given time and you couldnt complete half of them because the systems they were in werent available, but you had no way to know this

gameplay in 3 was phenomenal though

I have a lot more complaints about 3, but I liked the game overall, but the ending has killed my desire to play the entire series

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 6:21pm by Finuve
#7812 Apr 04 2012 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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the weaker storytelling is due to the overarching plot (which is forced by the previous games and structure of the series) being a writer's nightmare. prep for imminent battle, save entire galaxy. oh yeah, battle race with ancient knowledge well beyond comprehension, but don't use silly tricks like "lol u don't get it, next battle!" tough stuff!

agree wholeheartedly about exploration though. even more limited than ME2. still an awesome game IMO.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 6:42pm by milich
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actually, i will say that my 1 giant complaint about ME series in total is precisely that the stakes were too high. i understand that they wanted to be ambitious, but the fact is that direct conflict to decide the fate of a galaxy is inherently less interesting than a local story in said galaxy. it cuts down so many possibilities, it shapes the whole story so profoundly. i didn't need shepard's story to be the story of the reapers. it would have disappointed a lot of people, but i would rather much more content, much less of it dealing directly with 1 Giant Adversary.

ME1 had large but remote stakes (reapers just a cool thing). ME1 was the sh*t because you're exploring this fully realized sci fi world. by ME3, you're firmly planted in plot, not occupying a universe. it's like how i missed all the beauty of the city of chicago because i was so busy studying bullsh*t philosophy.
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#7814 Apr 04 2012 at 5:27 PM Rating: Good
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Even if the stakes were high, at least they could have prepared several bad endings not just one.
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anyone ever read Drew's original plot threads for the series?

there was a reason Dark Energy was foreboding in ME2
#7816 Apr 04 2012 at 11:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Even if the stakes were high, at least they could have prepared several bad endings not just one.

They did. They made three. Or at least it's a bad ending for somebody, what with screwing up the Geth helping the Quarians get back to ground and such being the least of things after destroying the goddamn Mass Relays, and that's widely considered the acceptable ending!

The 'either way, somebody is gonna get f*cked' nature of whatever endings you may have available is what's putting people off. It's sh*tty in the same way as Deus-Ex:HR's endings all were: It was a room with a 'pick what sh*t ending you want, cause we can't think of any good ones'.prompt.

I think this is tied to the bitch-ass modern gamer's disgust for having to go back a few hours, or worse, replay the game, to change things to get a different ending. They want all endings available, which means all endings have to be plausible, on any given playthrough, hence the overall sh*t-tier of each of them: same ending with a different choice of resolution, instead of a different ending because you did anything different.

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 11:06pm by Raelix
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#7817 Apr 05 2012 at 12:32 AM Rating: Good
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p.s. want to gloat that the giant hegel pun at the end was not lost on me. clever.

Having never even heard of Hegel before you mentioned him, could you elaborate on that one please?
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#7818 Apr 05 2012 at 3:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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spoiler time: (not all of it, but may as well spoiler tag the whole thing) in the end, as probably everyone who would be reading this knows already anyway, you choose between 1) destroying all the reapers, like shepard/alliance et al have been working toward for the whole game, 2) controlling the reapers, like your nemesis/opposite cerberus has been working toward the whole time, or 3) "synthesis", where you (ridiculously) "synthesize" organic and synthetic life, bringing about a (sci fi psychobabblejargon) "new stage of evolution" (a noun phrase up there with "experiencing something on/in/from Another Dimension").

hegel is famous for, among other things, the hegelian dialectic, a type of argument / reasoning / thought-meandering where you start out with an idea, then you entertain its opposite/refutation, then you take what's good/proven in both seemingly contradictory stances and come up with a new stance. the 3 stages are generally called "thesis," "antithesis," and "synthesis."

the "synthesis" option in ME3 is a pun of hegelian synthesis, because the option itself is a form of "synthesis" from the thesis (reaper destruction) and antithesis (reaper control), and also is a literal synthesis. they even have the absurd magic god you-see-what's-safe robot boy blurt out "synthesis," (no sentence, just the word and a period) when shepard asks about the 3rd option.


apologies if poorly/confusingly written; i'm drunk.

Edited, Apr 5th 2012 5:12am by milich
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Whelp bioware announced a clarity "extended cut" dlc, which wasnt what anyone asked for

Ending needed to remove the entire 3 choice pillar and the goddamn god child, no amount of "clarification" will fix those abominations

Uggh at least kingdoms of amalur was awesome
#7820 Apr 05 2012 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Since it's nearly Passover, Finuve, I'll leave this here for you.

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Sorry mate, but im far to invested in my vidya games to let things go, so i bitch about them, especially when its a series like mass effect, one of which i even own a bunch of merchandise from
#7822 Apr 05 2012 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
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Well, take it over to the Bioware forums at least. Gawd.
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Well, take it over to the Bioware forums at least. Gawd.

I've done that too, and gamefaqs, and /linkshell, and teamspeak

way too invested...
#7824 Apr 05 2012 at 11:57 PM Rating: Good
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Then I pity you for letting a video game take over your life to that extent.
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Then I pity you for letting a video game take over your life to that extent.


(: have to admit there's some irony in that statement, given the board we're all posting on here.
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Ending needed to remove the entire 3 choice pillar and the goddamn god child, no amount of "clarification" will fix those abominations


I'm not entirely on the "You're all just entitled gamers" camp," but I really can see where they're coming from. If you don't like it, don't buy anything else from bioware. Move on with your life. I understand that you're upset that your precious bald space marine series didn't have the ending that you desired, but the reaction has been a bit silly. It's like a child throwing a temper tantrum. I don't think anyone that buys a game first day should have any right to demand something of the company. Sure, you have every right to complain, but you need to understand: You're taking a risk when you buy anything at it's release. Why is this idea held in a different light with vidya? We all know what reviewers are nowadays. We all know that companies will embellish their titles and sometimes outright lie to you about what it will contain. Be more skeptical. Wait a few weeks after the release. It's not going to kill you to wait such a small amount of time to really see if a game is worth the purchase.
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What's this 'buy' word you keep using? Smiley: sly


Edited, Apr 6th 2012 3:49am by Raelix
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*Shrug* I've never been one to "not buy" games.
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(: have to admit there's some irony in that statement, given the board we're all posting on here.

Considering that most of the DRK Club regulars have moved on from FFXI, the irony has less impact than it otherwise would. Smiley: tongue
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I got a sudden urge to play XI again yesterday. I'm sure it'll pass.
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happy birthday, I'd bake you a cake but thatd require effort
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I got a sudden urge to play XI again yesterday. I'm sure it'll pass.

Yeah, happens to me every now and then. I just think back to the last time I logged back in to realize I hadn't saved my macros since the first day that feature was released and that the entire game apparently now revolves around the latest expansion I don't have yet. On top of that none of my friends play anymore and my server is gone.


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Busa will have to explain Project Amanda next he comes around. It sounds very DRK-Approvable.
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Hapop Boydart Faramir!

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Yeah, happens to me every now and then. I just think back to the last time I logged back in to realize I hadn't saved my macros since the first day that feature was released and that the entire game apparently now revolves around the latest expansion I don't have yet. On top of that none of my friends play anymore and my server is gone.
Yeah, all the people I know moved on when I moved on, so there's every point in me staying with EVE and no point in me coming back to FFXI.
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Kinda wanna get 99 with my mains. I'm sure I can fit in, I was pretty famous on Sylph at one point. It's just the hassle of finding out my old passwords and such from SE that's stopping me tbh.
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happy belated birtday.

i get nostalgia for ffxi sometimes. never really want to go back to it though. felt closure (pahn's "adventurer" days are over, and he belongs to a time before you were anything beyond level 75).

and re: letting a game dominate your life, while i don't regret, i'll freely admit that i played an astronomical amount of ffxi when i could have been doing other, more productive things.
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Yeah, I probably could have gone to any school I wanted if I had done my homework in high school.
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S'what I was sayin'!
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led zeppelin's no quarter blasting, steaks on the grill, on my third fanta and vodka (2.5 shots each, we don't bullsh*t round here), full on nostalgia bomb in effect ~

and happy birthday, @#%^er <3
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Wait, your birthday is on New Beer's Eve?
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I can't think of anything more worthy of a holiday!
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This will probably entertain you for hours.

No, it's not the secret project, but it's related.

Edited, Apr 8th 2012 7:21pm by Raelix
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It's not going so good. Smiley: mad
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It's not going so good. Smiley: mad

Is this your daughter?
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HA. She's got a new nickname now.
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No, it's not the secret project, but it's related.

Edited, Apr 8th 2012 7:21pm by Raelix


crashed my firefox.
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Get Chrome then...

And turn sound off or get Dev channel, because it now crashes Stable as well. I don't know how they broke it.
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You're welcome.
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