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#1 Dec 01 2009 at 5:48 AM Rating: Good
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I was looking at this piece and thinking it really doesn't get any love. I've seen maybe 5 on Bismarck. While talking about it with a friend, i called it a Byrnie+2 or an Ares's Cuirass-1. He didn't get my logic, so i thought i'd check here and see if i know wtf i'm talking about.

Let's look at some similar pieces of gear:

First, the byrnie+1, cost on bismarck, 3.1M: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Byrnie_%2B1

Second, the shadow breastplate itself, cost on bismarck 3M if you get it synthed, 5M if you buy from the only crafter selling em (to himself): http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Breastplate

Finally, Ares's Cuirass, cost on bismarck, just under 16M counting the coins too: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ares%27s_Cuirass

Now, i'm NOT advocating byrnie+1 on DRK at all. No BAADDDD. Nor am i saying that shadow breastplate is on par with Ares's. Ares's is clearly a better piece. What i AM pointing out though is that this seems to be a pretty decent, SITUATIONAL, overlooked piece, especially if you are unlikely to get an Ares's Body anytime soon. Yeah, ares's has 2 more str and vit and 1 less attack. yes, ares's doesn't have any negative stats and in fact boosts hp and mp, and this has -3 dex, agi, mnd, int, and chr, but unlike ares's, shadow also sports acc+5. finally in place of refresh, it has 2 hp/tic regen. I'm not saying drop everything and go out and get one, i'm just sick of people constantly dismissing it as trash
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#2 Dec 01 2009 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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livejournal's that way ---> ?

nothing new. it's in the same boat as ares, plastron, byrnie, and askar body in that it's questionable at worst and situational at best. know when/how to use one if you land one, and don't be one of the tards full-timing them on everything. DE and pizza changed a lot of things as far as what was possible, but most folks don't really have the supporting gear/merits to take advantage of these pieces to their fullest.
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My LS is full of SAM's that fulltime askar ._. they still get all the buffs while i'm put in the tank party to sometimes get haste
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lol, people are stupid. get a better LS?
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#5 Dec 01 2009 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Umm DC's in Nyzul & assaults, and low eva mobs in campaign made situational armor more interesting and worth purchasing...

I'd say Ares, Aurum, Shadow, worth looking into. At the very least, very pretty town gear.

As for 3 mil

2 mil = berk+1
1 mil = plastron

That was my choice, refresh idle piece is nice, plastron fun to wear in special events/Olympics.

Especially if your merited to the teeth.
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My LS is full of SAM's that fulltime askar ._. they still get all the buffs while i'm put in the tank party to sometimes get haste
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No point in being in the upper 1% if the tank and rest of the group won't match you. Your just going to end up tanking or face planted, reducing your performance with down time/tanking time.

Match your group, edge slightly above them, don't drown them. Especially in stuff like dynamis where everyone even the rejects get to go.

If you can't tolerate it, do small man events with the elite minority.

In other events, enjoy yourself. Even I have to gimp myself from time to time when it gets too hot for me. And i'm not part of the elite by any means.
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Meh. It's mostly a dyna issue, though sometimes they'll stick me at the kids table in einherjar too. I'm one of maybe 3 "melee types" in the LS without sam leveled to 75, so typically when it comes to events where melee is allowed (i'm best geared RNG in the shell at least ^_^), there's our little SAM swarm, me on drk, a full ares's drg (he doesn't fulltime it, just giving you an idea how his gear is,) and sometimes an adaberk war, who until last month when he got the berk was coming brd to damned near everything. ironic thing is i've talked with some of the officers when i am looking for gear advice and they all tend to LOL at the SAMs that fulltime askar and talk about how they beat the crap out of them in parses on other jobs. Oh well. At least i'm still #1 on say BV2 and other zerg events.
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the kids table.

Yep that's how I feel about it. I'm quoting you.

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This is how Shinta rolls, @#%^ the pansy "actual tank"
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#11 Dec 01 2009 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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Your just going to end up tanking
This is how Shinta rolls, @#%^ the pansy "actual tank"
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I got P.body last night and tonight i get the breastplate synthed. I can't find any price history on any server for an HQ. my crafter synths for free (DRK named Firedemon. kewl guy) but price for HQ is discussed beforehand. What do you guys think a Valkyrie's Breastplate would be worth?
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#13 Dec 01 2009 at 5:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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easily attained from the same event and mob that gets you shadow breastplate.
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At least 8 mil for the HQ. But yeah... go with an Adamann Hauberk.
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got about 30 people ahead of me on that. sh*t's situational anyway. if acc or crits (looking at the dex on em) isn't an issue, then shadow breastplate is a harder hitting piece with 10 more attack than adaberk

but yes, i will be getting adaberk eventually

EDIT: also, Odin's being a greedy bastard. one e body so far for us, lots of m. bodies though -.-

random thought: why the hell doesn't he drop N.body? why is kirin still the only place to get that?

Edited, Dec 1st 2009 3:46pm by Aluus
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#16 Dec 02 2009 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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ebody's only situational if you're maxed on merits and already capping accuracy on light targets. gratz on pbody though for DE fun in the meantime though.
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#17 Dec 02 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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The abjurations odin drops are mostly from ground kings that can't be popped, hence why kirin drops are kirin only still.

It was a solution to not being able to get abj unless you botted the land kings.

(not a great solution but w/e)
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I have the breastplate. Basically I was a newly 75 drk and didnt feel I deserved the E.body yet. So I didnt pick anything for my odin lot pc. When P.body dropped, it was rot to plds and drks. I won it with a 780ish lot. I love the look of the pc.

I wear it whenever Im not fighting mobs. Besides that, there are VERY few instances that I actually use it for combat. I have to say, with Ace helm, moli scythe, new expansion pants and p.body on I look hot.

Hauby +1 and E.body are way better though. Ares has refresh yes, but I would take the +2 regen and the +5 acc over it. Crap...I'm going to get flamed for that. I am an acc hog though.

It is not trash...but in most situations a 100k NQ hauby is better. At least in my experience and using ffxi calculater to get as close to cap acc as possible. The added 5 acc and 5 dex helps alot more then more attk. and 5 more str.
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This is how Shinta rolls, @#%^ the pansy "actual tank"


As a former "actual tank", I heartily endorse this. The awesome DD's I had to tank for forced me to become the best PLD I could be. Without them, I wouldn't have gotten to where I was. If they take offense to it... just keep doing it. They'll either learn, or your shell will eventually just say, "Can you come on WHM instead? We're going to let the DRK tank."
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@steelreserve: exactly. problem is most folks don't bother and we end up with guys full-timing the whole black jse set. sh*t makes me cringe.
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No point in being in the upper 1% if the tank and rest of the group won't match you. Your just going to end up tanking or face planted, reducing your performance with down time/tanking time.


Learn to tank better on drk. In dynamis outside of demons, its not hard whats so ever. /Sam has Seigan+ third eye or if you have to /nin has shadows. Dread spikes(owsum for mnks,thf PDs) drain, drain II, aspir, stun, weapon bash. Tweak your damage taking set, no reason you cant have fun ripping away at mobs.

If you want to use SE in dyna learn how to properly use it and what times are best. If you have a good whm/healer you could get away with abusing it if you knew what you were doing, and when, not very smart guillo+SE and taking EES and dying instantly.


Aside from SAMs natural buffs, a lot of the time drk gets put on the back DD burner vs SAMs, WARs, maybe RNGs, is because it takes a lot more gear tweaking and imo more aggressive play to really out perform the other jobs.

I agree with Nameless, LR and Souleater really put drk up on top DD platform.

If you really love being on DRK, put a lot of love into your job(like anyjob you level tbh) play it to its fulliest, become a macro~whore(it helps a lot) disect your gear combos and camps/mobs youll be at or upagainst. Make several sets for different events, etc etc. More people will notice you when you're a better player than a better job.
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If you really love being on DRK, put a lot of love into your job(like anyjob you level tbh) play it to its fulliest, become a macro~whore(it helps a lot) disect your gear combos and camps/mobs youll be at or upagainst. Make several sets for different events, etc etc. More people will notice you when you're a better player than a better job.


this should be standard for playing any job. the sad part is that it's not.
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I love showin up to events in 3/5 Black set, and have ppl go ZOMG HOW DO YOU STAY ALIVE!

Then swap into berk+1 and other gear when actually fighting. lol
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pc.
Are you trying to say "Piece"?


And this is why I never post here anymore. No matter what I type someone complains about something I did or spelled wrong.

I just don't get why people need to be ass hats on what I type. If something like pc. instead of piece annoys you...then maybe you should stop using the internet forums.

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#26 Dec 03 2009 at 4:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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pc.
Are you trying to say "Piece"?


And this is why I never post here anymore. No matter what I type someone complains about something I did or spelled wrong.

I just don't get why people need to be ass hats on what I type. If something like pc. instead of piece annoys you...then maybe you should stop using the internet forums.

English is my second language, I do the best I can.
I honestly did not know pc meant piece. Personally I don't understand why you would abbreviate a 5 letter word which doesn't even really see that much use. I can overlook stuff like "u" when someone is texting or instant messaging because it is used so often and the purpose of texting/IM'ing is instant communication. It's also understandable to abbreviate a longer word or phrase you intend to use often in after you spell it out the first time as it will be obvious what you're referring to and save a good chunk of space, like when I used IM'ing.

That said, I only say something if I'm having trouble understanding what the person is trying to communicate.
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SteelReserve wrote:
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
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pc.
Are you trying to say "Piece"?


And this is why I never post here anymore. No matter what I type someone complains about something I did or spelled wrong.

I just don't get why people need to be ass hats on what I type. If something like pc. instead of piece annoys you...then maybe you should stop using the internet forums.

English is my second language, I do the best I can.


Am I blind or something? Where is the post in which Nil said this? It doesn't seem to be appearing on my screen. :x I don't see any posts by Nil in this thread actually.
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In all fairness, we didn't know that before you told us. Or at least I didn't know. Had we known, this argument probably wouldn't have started (although you speak English as a second language better than some do as a first language, so it's a fairly easy mistake to make)

@Siralin: I think it got reported and removed. Not sure.
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Hey Steel, you sig is huge like xbox.

plz don't report me q_q
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I did not report her/him. I wouldnt do that. I didnt even know how to until you guys mentioned it so I looked around at how to do it.

Sorry I overreacted, It was just my first post on this site in over a year. Stopped posting cause I couldn't post without getting insulted so stopped. Then first post on here with, what I thought was helpful information, got graded on my English again. So I snapped. To explain my use of pc. I work in a manufacturing shop. As you can guess, I use the word pc. and pcs. a lot so its automatic for me to type it that way. Same thing goes with ea. = each. Its retarded to abbreviate both of them, but its also habit. A retarded habit.

My apologies.

Also on my sig, you are absolutely right. I fixed it.

That was dumb to have so much information on here.

Wow...this is now way off subject. My bad for hijacking this thread. ; ;
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To explain my use of pc. I work in a manufacturing shop. As you can guess, I use the word pc. and pcs. a lot so its automatic for me to type it that way. Same thing goes with ea. = each. Its retarded to abbreviate both of them, but its also habit. A retarded habit.


I've seen that on a lot of plants or shops. It seems like it's a relic from the old type-writer days where getting things in short-hand was more important. Thanks to bureaucracy being what it's being, I don't think it's allowed to change.

And, for the record, I knew what you meant...
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Don't worry Siralin, there is a point in a young man's life when he becomes a man and his sig becomes very large. You just haven't blossomed yet. And if it never happens, then you will never be able to satisfy a woman with an equally large sig. I'm sorry, size matters.
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I did not report her/him. I wouldnt do that. I didnt even know how to until you guys mentioned it so I looked around at how to do it.

Sorry I overreacted, It was just my first post on this site in over a year. Stopped posting cause I couldn't post without getting insulted so stopped. Then first post on here with, what I thought was helpful information, got graded on my English again. So I snapped. To explain my use of pc. I work in a manufacturing shop. As you can guess, I use the word pc. and pcs. a lot so its automatic for me to type it that way. Same thing goes with ea. = each. Its retarded to abbreviate both of them, but its also habit. A retarded habit.

My apologies.

Also on my sig, you are absolutely right. I fixed it.

That was dumb to have so much information on here.

Wow...this is now way off subject. My bad for hijacking this thread. ; ;
We're a little on edge right now, don't worry about it XD
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Seriously? Someone is like, culling my posts.

I was just looking for clarification. It took me a good while there to figure out that you mean "piece" when you say "pc". I'm not going to apologise, because second language or not that's @#%^ing lazy.

I speak German and Spanish as superfluous languages. I may suck at them but I don't more than half words in prose. Srsly.


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Wait wait wait, pc. isn't a common abbreviation?

Then why the heck do I know automatically that pc. refers to piece? ; ;

Oooooh, American education system. Hehe ^-^
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When I see "pc" I think "personal computer", the only time I can recall seeing it used as "piece" was referring to fried chicken lol
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#37 Dec 05 2009 at 1:28 AM Rating: Good
It really wasn't that bad, didn't even bother me. Not like MEGATRON on the Diablos server forums. He's dyslexic, but . . . still.


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Sara what the heck, get in IRC :E
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Sara what the heck, get in IRC :E


If you put an 8 where the colon is in that...it looks like DAT ASS 8E
#40 Dec 05 2009 at 1:43 AM Rating: Excellent
I DUNNO HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-;
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Wait wait wait, pc. isn't a common abbreviation?

Oooooh, American education system. Hehe ^-^


No, American Fast Food Industry.

4pc. Chicken Nugget 
6pc. Chicken Nugget 
or 
1000pc. Jigsaw Puzzle 

etc.

Except that foreign speakers don't differentiate between 'pieces of a set' and 'pieces of art/equipment/sh*t'.

A piece of art and a piece of a jigsaw puzzle are two entirely different uses of the word, if very very subtlety.

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for what it's worth, i had no idea you meant 'piece' by 'pc'. might want to avoid that one in general usage... didn't "bother" me or anything, just confused me.

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ITT: Proof that Drks lack basic reading comprehension skills and can't figure out what a word means simply by trying to understand its context in a sentence. At least while under the influence of alcohol.
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Don't listen to this! Giga is a cruel tentacle raping god!

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chicken nuggets are disgusting. preformed cookie cutter bits of giblet.
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if everyone else followed your example, there'd be world peace and cake for all. you will find i am a generous god.

Don't listen to this! Giga is a cruel tentacle raping god!

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Don't listen to this! Giga is a cruel tentacle raping god!

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