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#1 May 29 2009 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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So as all of you know tier III prize includes

Hauteclaire and Homan Legs. Both freaking awsome for pld.

Assuming you got luky and won which would you chose and why??

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#3 May 29 2009 at 2:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Even though I have PLD to 75, I would pick Homam legs, I think. Simply because it'd give me more bang for my buck since I could use them on BLU, DRK, and DRG. Plus it'd let the people behind me in my Limbus shell get them faster.
#4 May 29 2009 at 2:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd take Homam Legs.

Before everyone freaks out, our Omegas are STINGY, and everyone wants them, so it's something I'd have to wait a long bit to get anyway.

Homam Legs are insanely useful for PLD, and I'd use them for almost EVERYTHING that I do on PLD, making an almost full-time piece worth more to me than a situational-at-best Sword that's not bad, but horribly overrated by the community.

Add in to that, Hauteclaire wouldn't really get much use for what I do, 99% of what I do on PLD, I'm better off using Joytoy. The times that I'm kiting, I'd rather have the Enmity from Chainsaw, because if I'm kiting something that's hitting me enough that -7% PDT matters, I'd be better off not kiting it in the first place. :P

The only thing I can think of that a Hauteclaire would be useful for (for that I do) would be Jailer Of Prudence, but even then, -7% PDT when I'm getting hit for 20-40s the majority of the time, not that huge of a deal.
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#5 May 29 2009 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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NCCoda I was thinking the same thing, but its sooo tempting because while Homan legs is "possible" to obtain for me, Haut would never happen.

Just two more weeks till results post, I know its highly unlickly but boy it would be nice to get a tier III.
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#6 May 29 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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Homam.

Much more useful, on many more jobs. Haute is pretty, but thats it. Almost any time i would want it on, joyeuse would do better.
#7 May 29 2009 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I love my haute much more than my homam legs, but I also got it like 3 months before I got my legs. Its one of those pieces thats not good in all fights, but in the fights that it IS good for, its fantastic.

If I had neither and was doing limbus though, I'd pick the haute. Homam legs if you do dynamis is just a waiting game. If you don't kill khim regularly then haute isn't even possible for you at all.
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Hauteclaire because Homam legs is a common drop for our linkshell.

Also as someone else pointed, if you do limbus then Homam is just a waiting game and if you don't fight the HNM for hauteclaire then why would you pass them up.
#9 May 29 2009 at 10:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hauteclaire because Homam legs is a common drop for our linkshell.

Also as someone else pointed, if you do limbus then Homam is just a waiting game and if you don't fight the HNM for hauteclaire then why would you pass them up.


Because, for 99% of the stuff I do, Hauteclaire is largely outclassed by a Joytoy or Mach+1. The other 1%, being something like Prudence, is easy to handle without a Haute. Heck, I've held both Prudences at once when our sack puller messed up, LS killed one, I tanked it and let the other beat on me, and it wasn't difficult.

Obviously, if you do Limbus a lot, get the sword, it has its uses and is harder to get than Homam Legs. Personally, I'll take the legs since our drop rate on them sucks, it would free up one more slot on the list of people that need them, and a Haute just isn't worth having for what I do (if I felt that I needed one to tank what I tank, I'd be out there camping).
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#10 May 29 2009 at 11:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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If I didn't already have Homam Legs I'd take them, those damn things took me 2 years of limbus to finally get them and they are simply wow <3

But with Homam Legs I'd probably take 1mil over Haute. Sure it's pretty but, 1mil can buy me alot more useful things. Haute just seems too situational to really be worth > 1million.

Think of it this way, would you pay 1mil for one?
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#11 May 30 2009 at 12:08 AM Rating: Good
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i'd take the legs because i have too damn many swords as it is.

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#12 Jun 02 2009 at 8:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't do HNM and I'd NEVER have a chance at the sword, so that's what I'd get. H. Legs would be more useful but at least I have a chance at those.
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H. legs are relatively easy to get. All apollyon zones can be cleared by 6.
NW can be cleared with 3 blms or sch and a rdm (or less if you're very experienced).
SW can be cleared by 3-4 BLU and a rdm/blm (chainspell sleepga on the first floor while BLU zerg the BLM (taru enters first).
NE and SE take a full, balanced party; SE might require more than a party, if you lack certain jobs.

In any event, 12 people can do Omega every 3rd run, and fewer if they're good at farming chips.
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#14Xellith, Posted: Jun 03 2009 at 12:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Homam legs are easier to obtain than byakkos haidate.
#15 Jun 03 2009 at 1:51 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not so much about the value of both items compared in gil.

You can always get Homam. Linkshells plenty that fight it on a regular basis. Claiming Khim and getting the drop, not so much.

Even though i already have close to six swords i switch out, i'd still take the Haute. Mostly because of claiming and killing Khim, but maybe also because i already have four pants as well.

Besides, it's one sexy looking sword. And it's big too.
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#17 Jun 04 2009 at 8:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I would get Hauteclaire since I already have Homan. But if I didn't have either, I would still take Hauteclaire since Homan Legs are much easier to get, since limbus is instanced. Camping Khirm is not fun since it has such a long spawn window.
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#18 Jun 05 2009 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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A rare sword you'll never use versus a common drop from an instanced HNM that you'll use all the time? Frankly, I'd probably take the money.
#19 Jun 06 2009 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Approaching this from a purely PLD/RDM standpoint, and having neither Homam legs or Haute, which would you choose? Note that PLD is my only 75 and i do have Joyeuse
#20 Jun 06 2009 at 11:03 AM Rating: Good
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If you never plan to join a limbus shell or do limbus at all, Homam Legs are a clear winner. If, however, you plan on joining one, Homam Legs seems to be one of the more common drops, so you might want to consider a Hauteclaire.

Personally, for me, I'd take the gil. But chances are, I wouldn't win the Tier 3 on my main, anyway.
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#21 Jun 06 2009 at 11:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Trotter boots (*'-') @#%^ you Simurgh you greedy cnut.
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#23 Jun 06 2009 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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#24 Jun 07 2009 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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NE and SE take a full, balanced party; SE might require more than a party, if you lack certain jobs.


I've managed a full SE clear with WAR DRK BRD RDM, I find the only true trouble-spot on this zone is the boss that charms, we got lucky and it didn't use it once.

To the question on hand, I have both. Over the year or so with Haute I have found it's use die down, though in most instances where you would straight tank with a mac+1 you are better off with a haute imo. Though it seems those days are gone, assuming you have adequate support.

Still, the rarity factor needs to come into play here. I think you take a Hauteclaire and live with what it does, and just be patient in limbus. Camping Khim sucks.

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Thats why you don't camp khim. People post mules there for a reason. You just login the mule once an hour to see if it pops, and if it doesn't, log back out. Camping a mob with a 24 hour window is a waste of time.

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#26 Jun 07 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
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did limbus last night.

http://sizedd.freeforums.org/6th-june-2009-limbus-omega-t33.html

seriously. homam is so easy to get.
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#27 Jun 09 2009 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Thats why you don't camp khim. People post mules there for a reason. You just login the mule once an hour to see if it pops, and if it doesn't, log back out. Camping a mob with a 24 hour window is a waste of time.


Possibly works on your server, doesn't work on all servers.

Lot's of times you can see holding parties @ Khimaira, or atleast a tank and a couple healers. Once this happens your either forced to bring your own guys out, or accept that your probably going to lose claim, since you will have to rush people out there (they will too of course) but they'll have the 3-4 if not more healthy bodies that can claim and hold.

In contrast, our Omega we did today dropped legs and feet. Unless we have an oddball # of people for limbus sending anymore than 6 for Apollyon zones is a waste. With 10 people you can comfortably kill him, while setting your own time to do so, instead of working off of the randomness of an HNM spawn/god awful drop rate.

I still think if you have the choice between the two you go with Hauteclaire.
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I'm debating between Haute, RDM relic body, and Homam legs for rank 3. Despite the fact I think the Homam legs would probably be the most useful to me, it's also the one item I see myself potentially being able to get someday if I happened to stumble upon a Limbus shell with a compatible schedule. I don't see myself ever obtaining the other two the normal way unless I merc'd them.

Trotter Boots are tempting, but since Striders are buyable, I doubt I will pick them. For me, assuming I'm lucky enough to win something above rank 4, I want my reward to be something I can't normally buy =/
#29 Jun 10 2009 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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I have both and the legs by far are the better item. However, if you do limbus anyways then just wait for the legs to come your way. The sword is really just town gear. I know its rare and looks cool but seriously soon as I start tanking something it goes right to the Gobbie bag and out comes joyeuse. That said take the gil or something for another job.
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Thats why you don't camp khim. People post mules there for a reason. You just login the mule once an hour to see if it pops, and if it doesn't, log back out. Camping a mob with a 24 hour window is a waste of time.


Possibly works on your server, doesn't work on all servers.

Lot's of times you can see holding parties @ Khimaira, or atleast a tank and a couple healers. Once this happens your either forced to bring your own guys out, or accept that your probably going to lose claim, since you will have to rush people out there (they will too of course) but they'll have the 3-4 if not more healthy bodies that can claim and hold.

In contrast, our Omega we did today dropped legs and feet. Unless we have an oddball # of people for limbus sending anymore than 6 for Apollyon zones is a waste. With 10 people you can comfortably kill him, while setting your own time to do so, instead of working off of the randomness of an HNM spawn/god awful drop rate.

I still think if you have the choice between the two you go with Hauteclaire.


Khimaira is one of the easiest mobs in the game to hold with a single /nin if you know how to do it. Hell, I've seen a whm/sch hold it for 5+ minutes easily. If you're that worried, have the mule be an alt 75 character (most endgame linkshells have a few laying around from old players who have retired) and its cake.

Its always fun to piss off people by being there totally alone on brd/nin with 6+ people from the competition camping and when it pops and they don't claim instantly thinking they have time. Just claim it with elegy and hold it until help shows up.
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