Allow me to illuminate...
This is the most stupid theory related to FFXI I've ever read.
To any high enough SCH that would care enough to debunk this theory: follow the OP's advice on say, Kirin.
Whatever the "100% unresisted" element falls upon, cast it (you won't even land Wind spells on Kirin with B+ skill), notice the resist and post it.
Above is implying the theory can be debunked by trying it on a god... But at least its suggesting to try it.
I tested this on IT colibri at level 57 with BLM sub.
I definitely got very few resists when Windstorm was on him, but I did get some. Definitely less than with no weather on him but also not 100%. I NEVER got a critical resist, only half, but got several critical resists with windstorm off. It was lterally only 2 half resists amongst about 25 casts on ITs. I got about 50% resists of some kind with no weather on him. This was all with Dark Arts on.
So my limited test shows you're on to something but I was curious I did get a couple half resists.
Suggests that while farfetched, some other independent testing was showing some oddities... Poked holes in the 100% resist rate, but suggested that there did seem to be less resists...
Followed by your wonderful lines, Nateypoo...
This thread is terrible; don't even give it a passing thought of credibility. I hope to god this is a joke.
But of course, thats not an outright dismissal by anybody... especially not from you specifically? You think its all a waste of time, fine. But theres is the possibility that there are some possible kernels of truth in what the OP is presenting, and maybe some CONSTRUCTIVE lessons of scientific method could weed them out. His tests were non-scientific, and he is making some rather solid claims with no support... fine. But every scientific experiment starts from such shaky ground. The whole point is observation, followed by rigorous testing. If we dont give a passing thought to the potentials of a theory, we get nowhere.
At the cost of NO SKILLUPS
lol wtf does this mean? English, please. Are you claiming that someone "without skillups" (i.e. level 0 elemental magic?) could land an unresisted nuke on any mob?
As long as we are going with personal attacks... Apparently someones inflated opinion of their IQ is just that, inflated... I had no problem understanding what he meant, and others seemed to get it too. Your blazing intellect must have just been operating on such a higher level, that such a simple thought was beneath it.
I was in a bad mood when I read through this, and looking back, Ill admit I should have taken more care in my posting. I SHOULD have quoted, if for no other reason I would have then realized the insanity, hostility, and stupidity seems to be all coming from one source, Nateypoo.
I didnt feel like reading the entire thread, which is why I state quite clearly in my opening sentence that I didnt. I read through the first bits, was upset by some of the reactions I saw, skipped to the second page and saw a bunch of derailed topics. I had no desire to deal with those. So, I posted on what I had read.
Personally, I think the OPs claim is farfetched and overly complicated. I believe he made lots of fuzzy logic moves, and is probably looking for relationships that dont exist. But, I see that some people took the time to run 'nonscientific' tests, and are noticing similar results. Perhaps they are socks to the troll... perhaps they are suffering from wishful thinking and seeing/remembering things unclearly. I know the effects of anecdotal testing. However, there were a few people that posted they noticed SOMETHING odd.
So, I discount his 100% nonresist. Thats easily disproved. But, lowered resist rates is harder to prove OR disprove. Many posters to this picked his ideas apart, but admitted that it was a good idea to winnow out the possible kernels of truth that MIGHT be there. Some others decided that it was a good idea to 'disprove' the theory with things that QUITE REASONABLY could be considered exceptions.
We all know gods have high resist rates. We all know Colibri do too. This theory not working on them seems reasonable. Its not like he said 'it doesnt work on goblins and SAM mobs...'
And as to your spew of wasting time, and more 'important tests', and your three links to posts I dont even need to read cause it has no bearing here... The time you wasted on this thread alone could have easily been used to disprove such a poorly constructed theory as you seem to think this is. I could even care less if you've been right 1000 times in the past. Past accomplishments are no assurance of future ones. I dont care if you are right in this instance. This whole theory may be a crock of troll dung, and a complete waste of our time. But then, its our time to waste.
If you had some civility when you came in here, it wouldnt even be so bad. But I dont really ever expect that from you and your towering ego, inflated opinion of IQ, and idiotic personal attacks that have no bearing. I dont really give a flying rip what you IQ is. It may match mine. It may exceed it. It might be pathetically below mine. So what? People with high IQ can be just as stupid as the next human, and people with low IQ can come up with some brilliant notions.
You want me off my soap box? Then get off yours. You want people to stop trolling stupid insane theories? Stop trolling yourself. You want to laugh at all the gullible people who fall for such obviously illogical theories as this? Fine, laugh yourself right on to the floor. Dont waste your time in here. Go prove your theories. Go research whatever your heart desires on whatever aspect of the game you want. Please, bend you massive intellect to some constructive means for all the FFXI community, and stop wasting it on all the hopeless idiots you seem to find in these threads...
Now on to the point of the OP, and his overly complicated notions...
What if his theory has merits, but on a much simpler scale? Would someone care to test the theory that casting the weather effect on the tank MIGHT affect the mob somehow? I always wondered at the wording of the spell that says the weather changes 'around the target'. It could just be as simple as you can change the weather ON a person, and of course it would need to be around them (a really tiny raincloud right above their heads), or it might suggest a small AoE that can apply to mobs...
My thoughts, and the limited 'unscientific' testing seems to support it... The OP cast rainstorm on the tank, then noticed a change in thunder spells. Thunder beats water... Maybe day of the week has nothing to do with it. Maybe, possibly, it just might be that the weather spells DO have more of an effect that boosting spell damage and unlocking a few latent effect items...
The OP and a few others testing were not scientific. And there SEEM to be some inconsistencies which some say disprove his theory outright. However, its a two way street there. You cant claim that the OP didnt have a large enough sample size to prove his theory just cause he saw a lucky string of noresists, but then claim it WAS large enough that an unlucky string of resists disproves it.
So, can we set up some scientifically sound test for it, with lots of controls and data gathering. Go ahead and test it out first on Iceday just to humor the OP, then see if it doesnt work on other days as well. Or, as is just as likely, doesnt work at all. Also, I ask that you test this on some mob other than gods and colibri... It would help if it were a mob that you did experience resists on, perhaps something in the IT range. Also, as a control, Id start out with using an element spell that the mob is not strong or weak to. Best to start it off on neutral grounds, and see if there is any merit whatsoever to these claims.
What you'll need: A tank that can hold a mobs attention while you cast. For the sake of control, the tank should face the mob and be engaged to it. Ideally, something along the lines of a level 75 paladin with a shield and no weapon so he hits slow, and has lots of hate management tools. A mob that you experience resists to, but at a reasonable level. Ie, it wouldnt work to bring your level 30 BLM friend to test this against a level 70 mob. Id say in the range of 30% resist rate would good. Of course you need a SCH with the appropriate spells, and you will need to make sure that no 'real' weather shows up.
First, start off casting 100 nukes of the chosen spell, lets say thunder. Get an approx resist rate for full resist, half resist, and no resist. Honestly, what you are wearing, your merits, and all that other stuff has no bearing on the test. So long as it all happens on the same day, and you wear the exact same equip for the second half, it all means jack. It would prob be best NOT to use elemental staves, however, since at this point we actually want resists to occur.
Next, have the SCH cast the appropriate weather spell on the tank. In this case, it would be the water weather spell. Make sure that the tank keeps the mobs attention at all times, and just for kicks, lets keep them facing each other. Now, cast the same spell as you did in part one 100 times again. Make sure that you time it so that the weather spell is on the tank at all times. It would ruin things if it wore off the tank midcast. Keep another record of partial, full, and non-resists.
Just for more kicks, lets run the test one more time. This time, lets do 100 casts with Thunder Weather on the tank. Same rules as in the second part apply.
All told, this theory sounds like a reasonable one to me. The theory isnt too complicated, and it would fit with some of the results people have been seeing. Id do it myself, but I dont have access to SCH with those spells.