Weather Spells and what I've foundFollow

Amusing.

it means you should not be nuking birds in the first place.

first off they have some high INT or MDB n them, i really did not care to figure out what yet.

and quite freanlky i do not understand they way you worded it, there is no crt hits in magic, also at 58 you been fine getting little resists with HQ staffs and INT gear.

I played BLM and SCH like this and the results where the same

this is what i was not sure about.



normal exp pt, there is an eleitest veiw of 2 brd and rdm only or something similar, with this view you where basically leeching if you did not have to cure much. of couse you have to tell me your exact pt for me to say what the optimal would of been.

you can test on whatever you want, that water III report is very odd indeed.



I nuked whatever i wanted too and i could have like 1 resit in 2 hours. on my BLM i would flood crabs (OMG crab and water) and other spells that where considered strong to the mob where i did not have a problem ever. of couse this is ignoring the absule defense some mobs have, modern exmaple would be wind on carbi they always 50% the spell, water on leech, water on pugs are some others.
I was using HQ staffs and INT gear, never used elemental + gear. and i could of been say 60 in Loo as my BLM way back in the day and i would use level I, II and III spells. they where all fine as far as resist rate goes.

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 3:06pm by RambustheRDMtaru

lacked DD that is why you killed slow, TAU standereds are 20k+/ 1 hr not 12k.

take out the pup and sch for like 2 mnk or something and it would of been more optimal.

brds tend to be picky too, im shocked the brd even went to camp in that setup. guess it was a slow day or something. I had brds bail on pts before because on what i said

I think the unwritten rules of ATU pts are:

less then 5k/ hr = gimp
6k-12k~= anything/any combo can do it, just not with really out of this world job combos. *some brds will not except this*
12k-18k= ballace pt as far as burning as conserned just doesnt have the best of the best gear, *most brds tend to be ok with this.

20k+-???= tends to be with people that have the best of the best. some bards will only go to pt if they feel this is achievable. There is some brds them selfs that are 2 brd and a RDM only. I had a brd brake a hole pt and make a new one because he pulled too fast and I could not keep MP up as a whm so he redid pt as 2 brd and RDM instead of 2 brd and me whm.

30k~= tends to be HNM pts with 2 brd and a RDM most likly, in this pt you will find one pt whiping a hole zone. you may see this on greater cabri camp where a pt can wipe one floor them selfs and still loose the infante chain by killing too fast or if someone from anther floor pulls a pop. you may also see these at the mamool camp (not the nyzle one, nyzel mamool does not have enough mobs to stain this rate.) where one pt could wipe the place clean of mamools, puks and wyverns. after a while you see these zones clean of mobs pretty much where the pt kills more as they pop. these only exist at 75 for merits i think



i did levle sch to 75 too, when i did nuke ( i did have a few high end pts that wanted me /blm) i hit for full when i needed too, got bliz III to mb for 900 ish with that potency ja and this is having only 1 merit in elemental (this is not on rambus, anther taru, rambus is fully merited)

bliz III was the last time i got to mb as a sch.I did get simllaur results with my sch as my blm cept i never took note of higher level magic getting less resist rates then lower level ones on ether job. that is odd, this could use more testing to prove or disprove your finding.


Edited, Jan 30th 2008 4:12pm by RambustheRDMtaru

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 4:18pm by RambustheRDMtaru


Edited, Jan 30th 2008 4:32pm by RambustheRDMtaru

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 4:58pm by RambustheRDMtaru

the camp outside of whitegate is low on birds you have to be at that chobobo point i think and move a bit. and yeah you have to have no one there.

and drgs a lot of times uses full af? this si where the L.O.L drg stuff came from, it was from people seeing drg being used in gimpy equip, i be shocked if you got lower then 12k/ hr with smart drgs considering birds are weak to pircing ( polarms , daggers , and range attack)



i agree, but brds are use ally picky because they can get friends or something to get a better exp rate if they feel your party will go too slow.

as a SMN i seen some pretty sick stuff with 2 rng, a SAM/RNG and a nin on birds with a brd /nin @_@



shocks me even more, maybe it is one of the few that don't mind what they level with.

the way some people act is unforate but i am glad you leveled with non-a,holes.
/fume at some of the brds i had.

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 4:56pm by RambustheRDMtaru

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 4:57pm by RambustheRDMtaru

Heh, well It is a lot of steps when you look at it.

Wow, I just realized what this thread is. It's like Naturi is some evil overlord final boss of some RPG, and rambus and natey and everyone who doesn't beleive him is the party that is trying to take him down.

But he's brainwashed half the forum! And now they have to fight!

FFXI MATH RUMBLE GO!

He must have had Anniversary Ring + Double Empress Band to get that much on lesser colibri. I've had 12-13k/hr pts on Lesser Colibri but that was either with a BRD/NIN pulling or when I was on Cor and pulling/sleeping mobs at the camp with Light Shot. It is very easy to run out of mobs at the Leypoint as Mordru pointed out.

The standard exp/hr in ToAU areas can range from 8k/hr to 15k/hr. Different party setups, and amount of competition at camps can cause the results to vary. While a party setup might look good on paper (Possible 15k/hr setup), there are always a set of variables that become apparent once you reach camp and start partying that could lower the amount of exp/hr you are capable of. Also, in regards to 20k/hr being the standard. Every once in a while, people get those OMG 20k+/hr exp pts with a double bard, but it doesn't happen enough on a consistent basis to actually raise the standard up to that amount. The only time it becomes a standard is when it is a personal one that is achieved via the same group of people who merit together consistently.



Edited, Feb 3rd 2008 5:52pm by ImmortalAlchemist

I think he did a pretty good job of proving himself wrong with the aero vs aero II thing. That combined with gazes, weather on the tank, etc, etc leads to a colossal lump of sh*t. If the weather on the tank were to affect the mob, the most obvious thing it would do is increase the damage dealt; the benefits of weather is a known factor. As for the ludicrous day wheel and matching the elemental wheel, I consider it so unlikely that it's a waste of time.

I can think of at least a dozen more pertinent things to test, and by the time I'm done with them, I'll think of a dozen more. I do enough around here that I don't feel like wasting my time on every goddamn noob with an "idea". Every week in the PUP forum there's a new idiot theory that I waste my time debunking. In fact, right now I'm doing more tests on overload, which is a far better use of my time than this whimsical bullsh*t. So unless you've written threads like these:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=18;mid=1195067879211022569;num=11;page=1
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=18;mid=1182560512165457853;num=24;page=1
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=18;mid=119409969515717105;num=13;page=1

then I suggest you STFU and go test sh*t yourself if you're going to be a little bitch. As for me, I'll spend my time testing something practical. This is only the tip of the iceberg for my contribution.

QFT



Serious question: are you retarded? The next time you go off on a freakish rant, at least have the decency to quote people. I don't recall anyone outright dismissing his theory. I do, however, see a lot of responses attacking the OP's credibility and the theory's tentative connection to reality. And GTF off your soapbox. There are at least three people in this thread with IQs that dwarf yours. Don't think for a minute that we somehow overlooked applications of logic to ourselves.

Nobody is saying the OP's theory is invalid. We're merely saying he's an idiot for not even describing his testing methods or number of trials. Judging from what he's written, I doubt he even had a control case to compare against. Plus he presented not one, but at least five radical theories at the same time. I really don't give a crap if he's right or wrong, he's incredibly stupid and so are you for starting sh*t.

P.S. If you're going to post a screen length reply, then read the whole thread.

Allow me to illuminate...



Above is implying the theory can be debunked by trying it on a god... But at least its suggesting to try it.




Suggests that while farfetched, some other independent testing was showing some oddities... Poked holes in the 100% resist rate, but suggested that there did seem to be less resists...

Followed by your wonderful lines, Nateypoo...



But of course, thats not an outright dismissal by anybody... especially not from you specifically? You think its all a waste of time, fine. But theres is the possibility that there are some possible kernels of truth in what the OP is presenting, and maybe some CONSTRUCTIVE lessons of scientific method could weed them out. His tests were non-scientific, and he is making some rather solid claims with no support... fine. But every scientific experiment starts from such shaky ground. The whole point is observation, followed by rigorous testing. If we dont give a passing thought to the potentials of a theory, we get nowhere.



As long as we are going with personal attacks... Apparently someones inflated opinion of their IQ is just that, inflated... I had no problem understanding what he meant, and others seemed to get it too. Your blazing intellect must have just been operating on such a higher level, that such a simple thought was beneath it.

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I was in a bad mood when I read through this, and looking back, Ill admit I should have taken more care in my posting. I SHOULD have quoted, if for no other reason I would have then realized the insanity, hostility, and stupidity seems to be all coming from one source, Nateypoo.

I didnt feel like reading the entire thread, which is why I state quite clearly in my opening sentence that I didnt. I read through the first bits, was upset by some of the reactions I saw, skipped to the second page and saw a bunch of derailed topics. I had no desire to deal with those. So, I posted on what I had read.

Personally, I think the OPs claim is farfetched and overly complicated. I believe he made lots of fuzzy logic moves, and is probably looking for relationships that dont exist. But, I see that some people took the time to run 'nonscientific' tests, and are noticing similar results. Perhaps they are socks to the troll... perhaps they are suffering from wishful thinking and seeing/remembering things unclearly. I know the effects of anecdotal testing. However, there were a few people that posted they noticed SOMETHING odd.

So, I discount his 100% nonresist. Thats easily disproved. But, lowered resist rates is harder to prove OR disprove. Many posters to this picked his ideas apart, but admitted that it was a good idea to winnow out the possible kernels of truth that MIGHT be there. Some others decided that it was a good idea to 'disprove' the theory with things that QUITE REASONABLY could be considered exceptions.

We all know gods have high resist rates. We all know Colibri do too. This theory not working on them seems reasonable. Its not like he said 'it doesnt work on goblins and SAM mobs...'

And as to your spew of wasting time, and more 'important tests', and your three links to posts I dont even need to read cause it has no bearing here... The time you wasted on this thread alone could have easily been used to disprove such a poorly constructed theory as you seem to think this is. I could even care less if you've been right 1000 times in the past. Past accomplishments are no assurance of future ones. I dont care if you are right in this instance. This whole theory may be a crock of troll dung, and a complete waste of our time. But then, its our time to waste.

If you had some civility when you came in here, it wouldnt even be so bad. But I dont really ever expect that from you and your towering ego, inflated opinion of IQ, and idiotic personal attacks that have no bearing. I dont really give a flying rip what you IQ is. It may match mine. It may exceed it. It might be pathetically below mine. So what? People with high IQ can be just as stupid as the next human, and people with low IQ can come up with some brilliant notions.

You want me off my soap box? Then get off yours. You want people to stop trolling stupid insane theories? Stop trolling yourself. You want to laugh at all the gullible people who fall for such obviously illogical theories as this? Fine, laugh yourself right on to the floor. Dont waste your time in here. Go prove your theories. Go research whatever your heart desires on whatever aspect of the game you want. Please, bend you massive intellect to some constructive means for all the FFXI community, and stop wasting it on all the hopeless idiots you seem to find in these threads...

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Now on to the point of the OP, and his overly complicated notions...

What if his theory has merits, but on a much simpler scale? Would someone care to test the theory that casting the weather effect on the tank MIGHT affect the mob somehow? I always wondered at the wording of the spell that says the weather changes 'around the target'. It could just be as simple as you can change the weather ON a person, and of course it would need to be around them (a really tiny raincloud right above their heads), or it might suggest a small AoE that can apply to mobs...

My thoughts, and the limited 'unscientific' testing seems to support it... The OP cast rainstorm on the tank, then noticed a change in thunder spells. Thunder beats water... Maybe day of the week has nothing to do with it. Maybe, possibly, it just might be that the weather spells DO have more of an effect that boosting spell damage and unlocking a few latent effect items...

The OP and a few others testing were not scientific. And there SEEM to be some inconsistencies which some say disprove his theory outright. However, its a two way street there. You cant claim that the OP didnt have a large enough sample size to prove his theory just cause he saw a lucky string of noresists, but then claim it WAS large enough that an unlucky string of resists disproves it.

So, can we set up some scientifically sound test for it, with lots of controls and data gathering. Go ahead and test it out first on Iceday just to humor the OP, then see if it doesnt work on other days as well. Or, as is just as likely, doesnt work at all. Also, I ask that you test this on some mob other than gods and colibri... It would help if it were a mob that you did experience resists on, perhaps something in the IT range. Also, as a control, Id start out with using an element spell that the mob is not strong or weak to. Best to start it off on neutral grounds, and see if there is any merit whatsoever to these claims.

What you'll need: A tank that can hold a mobs attention while you cast. For the sake of control, the tank should face the mob and be engaged to it. Ideally, something along the lines of a level 75 paladin with a shield and no weapon so he hits slow, and has lots of hate management tools. A mob that you experience resists to, but at a reasonable level. Ie, it wouldnt work to bring your level 30 BLM friend to test this against a level 70 mob. Id say in the range of 30% resist rate would good. Of course you need a SCH with the appropriate spells, and you will need to make sure that no 'real' weather shows up.

First, start off casting 100 nukes of the chosen spell, lets say thunder. Get an approx resist rate for full resist, half resist, and no resist. Honestly, what you are wearing, your merits, and all that other stuff has no bearing on the test. So long as it all happens on the same day, and you wear the exact same equip for the second half, it all means jack. It would prob be best NOT to use elemental staves, however, since at this point we actually want resists to occur.

Next, have the SCH cast the appropriate weather spell on the tank. In this case, it would be the water weather spell. Make sure that the tank keeps the mobs attention at all times, and just for kicks, lets keep them facing each other. Now, cast the same spell as you did in part one 100 times again. Make sure that you time it so that the weather spell is on the tank at all times. It would ruin things if it wore off the tank midcast. Keep another record of partial, full, and non-resists.

Just for more kicks, lets run the test one more time. This time, lets do 100 casts with Thunder Weather on the tank. Same rules as in the second part apply.

All told, this theory sounds like a reasonable one to me. The theory isnt too complicated, and it would fit with some of the results people have been seeing. Id do it myself, but I dont have access to SCH with those spells.

Part 1: Admission of ignorance based on not reading the material before posting, admission of agreement that the theory is "far-fetched".

Part 2: Critique of Nateypoo's posting style and request to be nicer when criticizing.

Part 3: Explanation of one possible method to use in properly testing the offending "theory."

I'll expect my cookie.gif in a PM, thanks.

Oh, the irony.

If you're curious, don't be. There is no validity to the claim.

Just ignore it.

People people people,

This was not meant as a sock post nor was this meant as a post to start flame wars. I was simply posting what I found to be true in my case. The theory, does it seem far fetched - of course. But a lot of theories are far fetched until others try and see. For centuries, people believed the world was flat, yet 2,000 years previous, it was already stated that the world was round.

When I posted, I was simply stated my findings. Everyone else only ever tested against what was "known." I stumbled across what seemed to be unknown. Weather has never really been studied in the game. Weather is basically an untouched territory because no one has been able to extensivly test it. Now we can. I am not a person who post every single theory I come across. I have posted only one other "theory," and that is Skill chains. The reason I do not post them is because I like to think outside the box so to speak. As I stated, I know of an area(s) where the in-game day of week you farm will determine mostly what drops you get. I can actually tell a person what will drop 80-90% of the time, yet I won't post about it - even though I know on which day what types of drops I will get. I know of many other things within the game, but I refuse to post about it cause it seems too far fetched. It's not that people will not believe what I say, rather, how often can it be tested.

I was not looking for some fame or some rise in my post count - I was simply stating what I found. Weather has never been something controllable. All we have ever known is that it gives a bonus to spells cast. And in fact - that is all SE has ever said about it. Yet, the longest anyone has really ever been able to test weather is no more than usually 10 - 15 min (30 min max), and then the weather effected EVERY party member - not just 1 member. Now we can place multiple weather effects on multiple party members - no telling how this effects things.. Now, we have the ability to test weather for as long as we want. No other time has this been given to us. While sometimes far fetched, SE typically has some type of reasoning behind what they do.

I never stated that what I said was 100% undeniably the only way things worked. I asked for input from fellow scholars. And from what I've read, I actually have a more in-depth knowledge of how these weather spells seem to work - and probably do not work.

The whole reason I did NOT want to post my findings was because you can only test it for 1 hour every 8 hours. Being able to test something only 3 times a day isn't really the ultimate guide. Yet, I wanted to see if other scholars produced similar results.

All I wanted to do was try to enhance our knowledge of spells and it only produced flame wars and division. So I will say this: Should you choose to want to give what I have found a try - by all means feel free to do so - you have the method by which I tried. If you find this works for you too, then continue using it. If you do not want to, then don't. I am not forcing anyone to do anything - and if you wish not - then just let it be.

EDIT: Man I can't spell when I'm half sleep

Edited, Feb 12th 2008 4:55am by Naturi

I can't help but note to all the people talking about how others should "disprove" a theory, the theory was disproven IN THE ORIGIONAL POST. Are you all that desperate for this to be true, or do you just hate someone irrationaly or what? In the origional post he said he got a resist, and then said his conclusion was that this makes spells 100% unresistable. Why are we supposed to give serious thought to this, the proof you're all seeking is right there.

I also can't help note that all you flaming people for not testing and disproving this, arn't yourselves testing it. At least nate and others have the excuse that the burden of proof is on the OP, what's yours?

This whole thread is asinine, the conclusion was disproven in the origional post, and the testing itself is done in the exact same manner as goblin dropping bombs, or ebon pannels and all other crackpot theories. If a theory is true it won't matter if people senslessly flame it because the proof will be there. We're in this big flame war because a FALSE theory was shot down, what the hell is going on really.

Or they're massive with a pathetic ego... :P

The may in fact have higher base accuracies, however that's FAR different from acting differently. To my knowledge there is NOTHING that only works on one tier of nukes. Kind of like how day/weather effects with crafting work on all recipies rather than say ones over 40 only. Also given the programing limitations of the ps2(I'll save that rant for later) I HIGHLY doubt they'd use the space to, a. make something as complicated as this, and b. make it so that it only works on one tier of nukes.

While I don't particularly support the tactics of those like nate I can't say I condemn them either. With how desperate everyone is to cling to this it's never going to go away. As I said earlier it started already, people claiming every single counter example is "an exception." Also for everyone jumping down others throats here, nate did point out quite clearly several logical flaws with the whole theory.

Really think about all these, it only works on one tier of nuke, it uses elements unrelated in any way we've ever known, and the gaze thing, why would "weather around a player" only work with a gaze. I understand gaze attacks exist but it makes no sense at all. He honeslty didn't even come out flaming, he said this fails and here's why, makes total sense to me. Really this has no effect on aero but works on aero II, come on that's about as good as saying wind staff only works on aero II. Even the 100% resist is a crazy claim cause anything that can be resisted can NEVER have a 100% land rate no matter what you're casting on.

I think the biggest reason though for the flames is because the OP shows up presenting absolute crap for testing, and comes up with a completely convoluted theory, presents it as hard tested fact when he's a. done no real testing, and b. his results are full of lots of illogical things and counter examples.

You could even get into the programming for something like this, it's possibly more complicated than the theory itself. The fact that it's something on the tank, that then affects your spells and all that. Given squares track record for shoddy programming, lazy tactics and such, it's HIGHLY unlikly they'd do something like this.

It's not impossible for weather spells to be able to be used in some way to gain an accuracy boost, but lets see some real testing, and solid evidence before we go making any claims.

I don't think their is, based on my experience. If there is a MACC effect, I sure as hell haven't perceived it.

Over time, there's been no demonstrable increase in resist rate vs Fafnir on Thunderday or Thunderstorm conditions for me or my fellow BLMs. I also admit that I don't check other LS's BLMs, but based on the resists I see from the BLMs who's gear/merits I know from PT'ing w/ them, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say they have similar experiences.




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TBH, if you're going to test it, I'd say use SCH or RDMs on puddings, and maybe even limit their gear a bit. BLMs have too high native elemental vs flans, most of their casts would land. You'd have a better chance of knowing an increase when you're getting an occasional resist here or there anyway.

We know. Learn how to play before your rush to forums to argue over theories.

You missed the point entirely, and even quoted out of context.


"I offer so much to these boards already..."

This is in opposition to the dipsh*ts who think they can put the burden of proof on disbelievers. I was showing there are better things to test, and I already play an active role in the community. This demonstrates that I am not opposed to doing rigorous testing, reinforcing that the reason I don't do so is because this theory isn't worth two squirts of piss. What gives a nobody like yourself the right to bark orders at others? Do you seriously think you're a better man for telling me to "test it myself", when you've done nothing either, and furthermore have NEVER done anything? This has nothing to do with omnipotence, so much as calling you out for being a useless hypocrite with a big mouth.


"If you can't take this atmosphere..."

This was referring to your 20-odd post count. If you're going to march into a forum you're new to and whine like a bitch about the community, then perhaps you don't belong here. This isn't to say we're beyond compromise, but you seem to have a lot to complain about already. You also aren't taking this very seriously. This seems more like a joke or experiment to you than an actual attempt at discussion. From the way you post, you think highly of the way you distance yourself from us; for that, I'm showing you the door.


BTW, if you're going to be judging character, psychology, or sociology, you may want to turn the attention to your own freakish posts. Megalomania? That's rich. You're exhibiting quite a bit of that yourself. The focus of your attacks on me seems to praise "qualities" you admire in yourself, while simultaneously criticizing others. You've written entire posts obsessing, with petty assumptions and absurd conclusions.

Yeah, okay there jackass. His quote had nothing to do with sociology. He was merely stating that a swear does not necessarily equate to anger or rage. If I call you an idiot, it's because you're an idiot. For me, definitions are independent of emotion. No matter how mad I am, I hardly ever call someone a name that does not apply. How readily someone swears is another matter entirely, but again, swearing does not always equate to rage. I have several friends who swear like sailors, and are rarely ever mad or upset when doing so. You don't have to be a "sociology" major to state a simple counter-example, which was exactly what sock did:His post had nothing to do with whether swearing is appropriate. He's simply debunking your crude assumption that swearing = angry, and furthermore that swears have no meaning. This could not be more false. Swears in this case DO have meaning and were not written out of rage. You cannot simply discredit someone because they used swears.

Also, I'd like to take a moment to relate this back to my original post and why you're struggling so much with the scientific method. You see, it can even be applied to this situation here. You're making assumptions without evidence and stating them as truth. What proof do you have that I was angry? What proof do you have of anything in your analysis of me, for that matter? You've grasped enough straws here. Here's another example of your assumptions:My "gang"? I've never seen the majority of posters in this thread before in my entire life. What evidence do you have that I have a "gang"?

It's quite the contrary, actually. Very few people openly support me (although I have received dozens of /tells from supporters in-game). As I've said before, I've amassed a following of Nateypoo haters, like yourself. Do you seriously think you're the first bitch to flame me? Hell no. I'm an easy target for anyone who's pissed off, since there's a whole crowd itching for an opportunity to jump on my posts. Safety in numbers, you could say. The fact that multiple people are taking my side for once only goes to show how full of sh*t this thread is and how stupid you are for defending it.



This is disturbing on so many levels. First of all, even your students realize you're a pathetic hypocrite. This means your idiocy carries over full-force into real life. That's not terribly shocking in itself, but it IS disturbing that you'd run to your students for real-life support for your own megalomania. "Hey kids, aren't these forum posters psycho?! I'm sure glad we're not like them!!" I would really love to know how you spun off Sock's post as a "destructive theory of Nihilism and Relativism". That's quite a departure from reality. You should also keep in mind that one often imagines his own faults in others. It's a phenomenon called psychological projection. I think you're blind to it, and it could explain why your posts are always dripping with hypocrisy.

But that's not to say that I don't have an ego. I certainly do and I certainly feel superior to you. That has nothing to do with this forum, however; it has everything to do with you. You're not as bright as you think you are. You're spewing off words you consider to be fancy, with tentative or absurd application to the subject. You've made no ground with anyone but yourself; upon realization, you carried matters over to real life to seek approval.

I'm not done here. Here's another example:
Here's where you pretend to have an epiphany, and again, praise yourself for being vastly more mature than us. You act as if you've traveled to the slums of the internet, participated briefly in our sinning, and came back as a better person. Well here's a hearty "@#%^ you" to someone too full of himself to have a real conversation.



Also, who are your posts directed towards? You're obviously addressing me directly, yet you're typing about me in the third-person. Is this a retarded attempt at being condescending, or are you desperately reaching out for anyone who will listen? No matter. You're weird dude. Don't even pretend you're the norm here.

Don't kid yourself, freaks like you never learn. You're too obsessed with your own thoughts and ill-found conclusions. There really isn't a discussion taking place here on your part, so much as fanatical lecturing.



It really doesn't surprise me that you would defend the OP, since you're an illogical person. What does upset me though, is that you pride yourself for being a tutor. You clearly fail at the scientific method, which has application to the sciences, psychology, and literature, if not more. You can't simply state ridiculous things, without controlled evidence. This applies to everything: in-game testing, psychological theories about people, and analyzing writing.

If you face west on windsday while tanking your evasion goes through the roof.
and because its in the same week as water and dark, you get the effect of Treasure Hunter as well. And after much testing, if you face west on a windsday that falls between watersday and iceday you get an additional bonus to accuracy.

I have the data on my pc to prove this, but ill spare you all the wall of text.

Dont bother posting i believe you, Thanks for the research, Rated up.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Weather

Yes, the day of the week and weather will give a 10% damage bonus to all spells of that element. If you have double weather, it gives 25%. I think it caps out at 35%(?) with the day + double weather.

Nobody knows. To my knowledge, it has never been tested. If anyone tells you otherwise, they're probably lying.



The purpose of a forum is to discuss things. If some douche wants to post bad info or cat pictures, he can. If another douche wants to preach about what an awesome tutor he is, he can as well. It functions as learning, entertainment, mindless idiocy, or whatever you get or don't get out of it. In this thread, for example, there are a lot of faggots who ejaculate their e-penises at anyone who flames anyone. I enjoy kicking an idiot's puppy and pissing in his lemonade. You enjoy kicking people who kick puppies. Was your derail part of the "learning" process too? No? What was your point again?



:)

I sent that bitch a smiley face. Bitches love smiley faces.

:)

Time to close this thread, we have a winner.