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#1 Jul 16 2009 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I am seeking tips and info on the easiest, most efficient, methods of farming Limbus solo for both coins and AF+1 items.

I have recently done a fwe "low man" runs, but it seems like the people I run with are quickly gravitating towards wanting to "win" in order to put together Omega chip sets. I have no interest in this at all and strictly want to focus on efficient famring runs with little concern for winning the acutal event (unless its strictly incidental to the farming run).

The types of initial questions I have are:

Which zones are best for getting Temenos/Appylon red mage items solo?

What types of combat method provides the most efficient kill rate on particular mobs (I can probably figure this out, but still would like pointers if you have any)?

When does it make sense to skip timer chests, or gear chests in favor of timer chests? I'm unclear on the drop rates (%) shown on the wiki. Is this calculated based on many reports, or just someone editing the page and sticking an "observed" drop rate?

I plan to start doing this every few days. Perhaps I will put together a short guide on my experience when I am done. I have seen posts on this in the past (mainly in the blm forums), but I don't see any guides or stickies specifically pertianing to this currently.

Any pointers to help get me going in the right direction would be much appreciated.

Edited, Jul 16th 2009 1:06pm by Mithsavvy
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#2 Jul 16 2009 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
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For coins do NW, skipping all bosses, to ensure you have enough time for the 3 behes since they drop 5-6 coins each. If you have extra tiem (which you should), you can either try to kill kb (will want at least 35-40+ mins left when you enter the last floor) which will get you a few coins, as well as the chip, and af items. If you don't have enough time, you can kill the wyverns for 2 coins each. Just make sure you have at least 15-20 mins or so for the behes.

For af items you can get temenos item from F2 of east. Disregard that i, suck cocks.

Your best bet for apollyon item would probably be NE. Kill the bosses until you get item chest, and portal, then go up, kill the first bird, if that doesn't drop chest, or portal, then go to the third/fourth, because the second won't drop anything either. Once you get chest, just warp out.

blm/rdm for NW, and E. For NE i guess the easiest way would be rdm/nin, since time isn't an issue, since you're only going after the first two floors.

Edited, Jul 20th 2009 10:28pm by ThePsychoticOne
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#3 Jul 17 2009 at 4:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you.
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#4 Jul 17 2009 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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For coins do NW, skipping all bosses, to ensure you have enough time for the 3 behes since they drop 5-6 coins each. If you have extra tiem (which you should), you can either try to kill kb (will want at least 35-40+ mins left when you enter the last floor) which will get you a few coins, as well as the chip, and af items. If you don't have enough time, you can kill the wyverns for 2 coins each. Just make sure you have at least 15-20 mins or so for the behes.

For af items you can get temenos item from F2 of east. Your best bet for apollyon would probably be NE. Kill the bosses until you get item chest, and portal, then go up, kill the first bird, if that doesn't drop chest, or portal, then go to the third/fourth, because the second won't drop anything either. Once you get chest, just warp out.

blm/rdm for NW, and E. For NE i guess the easiest way would be rdm/nin, since time isn't an issue, since you're only going after the first two floors.


First off, I didn't realize how much I needed this information until after I read it. Thanks a lot.

I've been spamming SE Apollyon but haven't had the skill yet to clear the first floor. I can beat the boss no prob, and actually I see no difference between the boss and the other puddings. I Can see getting fast enough to kill 1~3 more max, but that'll still leave me 3ish short of clearing the floor.

Anywho, it looks like there are better choices as far as Limbus soloing for RDM AF items, and I appreciate you pointing them out to me.

Rog, when do you decide to nuke or to melee? Or are you just about always Nuke/Kiting? I noticed on the puddings that either method is just about as affective.
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Rog, when do you decide to nuke or to melee? Or are you just about always Nuke/Kiting? I noticed on the puddings that either method is just about as affective.

I generally always nuke since it's the fastest and easiest way to kill a mob, even though it's obviously not always fastest in the long run, due to resting. To be fair though, my melee gear sucks which lowers the usefullness of it. All i have is joyeuse/genbu (misercorde for /nin), turban, pcc, suppa/brutal, sh, dusk, blood/woodsman, amemet+1, swift, lolrelic legs, and dusk feet, with no changes for ws (not really worth the inventory to me since i never really use it outside of nyzul/salvage).

Also, puddings ≠ slimes.
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Tried NE Appylon. Not too bad, but I sure could use more nuking power. Killed Goob first and got Item chest. The two "big" mandragoras were proving hard to pull due to other mandys crowding around them. By the time I got them pulled cleanly too much time had wasted. Had to kill all NM on the 1st floor too since portal didn't open on the first two.

5 coins and 1 AF item (sam). I'm not displeased, but hope to get better at it. I think bringing along a BLM would do wonders for speed... in fact, I'm wondering if doing this as blm/rdm solo would be faster.


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#7 Jul 20 2009 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Mithsavvy wrote:
Tried NE Appylon. Not too bad, but I sure could use more nuking power. Killed Goob first and got Item chest. The two "big" mandragoras were proving hard to pull due to other mandys crowding around them. By the time I got them pulled cleanly too much time had wasted. Had to kill all NM on the 1st floor too since portal didn't open on the first two.

5 coins and 1 AF item (sam). I'm not displeased, but hope to get better at it. I think bringing along a BLM would do wonders for speed... in fact, I'm wondering if doing this as blm/rdm solo would be faster.

You didn't have time to get the second floor item chest? o.o

Sometimes the mandies can take awhile to pull, but usually no more than a few mins. If you see a clean pull, take it, even if you're weakened, have no mp, etc. Blm would absolutely be faster, but speed doesn't (shouldn't) matter one bit, since you're only going for the F1+2 item chests, and you have 45 mins, or an hour if you get the time chest on f2 (you shouldn't need them, but you could use powder boots and run through and open the time chests, then die->rr, or if you don't have flee then get them individually), though i can't imagine needing any more than 20-30 mins max.

The problem with blm would be the rocs. They cast massacre elegy, horde lullaby, and finale. They move fast (can only cast tier4 while they're bound, and can't kite without grav), and are immune to sleep. And they also hit like trucks. If you get hit with elegy, there's no way to survive. if gravity wears without bind recast up, you're screwed. Even with the best enfeebling gear, blm will still occasionally get silence resisted. Additionally, without very good gear+merits, depending on race, you may have trouble finishing them off before running out of mp, unless you slow down the fights tremendously by relying on dots+drain, which can be deadly.

Rdm/nin on the other hand can throw up slow and tank just fine if grav/bind aren't up (not to mention significantly faster recast times with fc+haste), won't get hit by elegy/finale, and has refresh/vert to remove any risk of running out of mp.

A blm would make it pretty easy to clear the zone, but would be pretty severe overkill if you just want the rdm af+1 item.
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You said blm/rdm would be best for the temenos zone, but would rdm/nin or rdm/blm(or /sch) work as well? Looking at your advice, both zones that look possible for getting AF+1 items drop them for both jobs I need.

Also, its been awhile since I did a temenos zone, is it possible to just skip everything on the first floor and take the portal up or do you need to kill something to activate it?
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Owow, wtf. Actually i lied, you can't kill shiva, since it's immune to bind+grav.

That leaves west for temenos. Just kill as many tigers as you can, and hope an item chest drops. If it gets more than 100 tp make sure you don't let it within 10' of you, so it can't use roar.
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Owow, wtf. Actually i lied, you can't kill shiva, since it's immune to bind+grav.


Shiva is susceptible to Elemental Seal + Gravity.

To Brindyy, /BLM's only really good for ES and Sleepga, which aren't necessary in Temenos East. If you're just nuking stuff and don't need Utsusemi to survive, use /SCH. Dark Arts bonuses let you use max damage gear against most limbus mobs, along with Parsimony and Aspir for increased longevity.

In regards to your question about the portal, there are 4 elementals on each floor, and each one drops a chest when defeated. If you open the fake item chest, the avatar spawns and the others disappear until it's defeated. Otherwise, the portal opens when you open the real item chest, the time chest, or the restore chest. The others depop when you open one of those; you only get one per floor. If you go solo you can get a shot at the 2F chest barring an unlucky run, but duoing the zone is much more efficient.

1st: Time
2nd: Item
3rd: Time or Item, depending on your setup
4th: Skip (Open first chest you see)
5th: Item

How far along you can get really depends on which jobs you bring. I usually duo this as SCH + BLM, we average 5min kills; 2 RDM would have trouble getting past 3F, whereas SCHx2 could make it to 5F and get 2-3 chests pretty easily. Note that 2F, 3F, and 5F all drop RDM BLM SAM items, so it's not that difficult to convince a BLM friend to come duo with you.

On a final note, if you intend on making a habit of lowman/solo limbus, I highly suggest leveling SCH to at least 37, it's well worth the effort.
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How feasible is it to get item chests on floor 1 as a RDM in Apollyon NW (I don't have /sch or /smn; see my sig for other jobs)?

What are the conditions to spawn the item chest there?

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The item chest drops from Pluto (the boss), but 3 time chests and the restore chest will be there when you enter, so you have 45 minutes plus a HP/MP/JA restore. You should be able to take him down quite easily using the restore chest, although it's certainly possible without it. I would Chainspell at the start, nuke down 1st MP pool, Convert, nuke down 2nd MP pool, hit restore chest, hit Chainspell again, and repeat. Bind and Gravity land easily, and it is not strong vs. Ice like most toads are. Just beware of his Disease move; it lasts forever and will kill the rest of your run if you planned on going further. For SJ i'd recommend /SCH > /BLM > /NIN, in that order.
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The item chest drops from Pluto (the boss), but 3 time chests and the restore chest will be there when you enter, so you have 45 minutes plus a HP/MP/JA restore. You should be able to take him down quite easily using the restore chest, although it's certainly possible without it. I would Chainspell at the start, nuke down 1st MP pool, Convert, nuke down 2nd MP pool, hit restore chest, hit Chainspell again, and repeat. Bind and Gravity land easily, and it is not strong vs. Ice like most toads are. Just beware of his Disease move; it lasts forever and will kill the rest of your run if you planned on going further. For SJ i'd recommend /SCH > /BLM > /NIN, in that order.


Great post!

Are the other monsters on the floor true-sneak? I've always thought monsters in limbus were. I guess if I'm patient I should be able to find my way around without aggro. I'll be sure to bring remedies for disease. It doesn't sound difficult at all assuming he has 11k HP (like the wiki says) and blizzards land well (500+).

It should be possible to kill it only w/ poison/bio for those w/ gimp nuking gear :).
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The ghosts aggro true hearing, but they don't link with pluto, so it's not really a problem.
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