OOOFloW wrote:
Very good info thank you,
Feet for role-reversal actually look good then, use it often to get my pet ready for deactivate->activate.
Too bad the optimization from the hat doesn't work.. could use a pet MAB/MAC+ for the headslot.
The hands i'm not worried about, won't wear them unless it's automaton only fighting, even if fine-tuning does work, i rarely use only my automaton as DD.
Guess could be nice for the Sharpshot frame. Even though i don't know if +13 STR/DEX/AGI from af3+2 would be beaten.
Lastly i'm interested how ventriloquy could even be enhanced... Would it reduce (or increase) hate on both pet and master after use? Does it interfere with dues-ex->ventrilquy->gone from hate list?
Fine-tuning or not, unless you're using stormwaker frame (regardless of which head), Pantin +2 will trounce Cirque +2, because of the pet: haste. 4% haste completely destroys 13 str/dex/agi. You take a tiny hit to your DD, since pantin+2 loses 6 str, 1 dex, and 6 store TP, but the extra haste for valoredge's dot or sharpshot's TP gain (mostly sharpshot's TP gain) more than makes up for that. The only thing that keeps them competitive is the set effect on cirque, which if you're in a situation where you're heavily leaning towards master DD, will push cirque ahead, but honestly, given how pet damage works vs high-def mobs (remember kirin? VE pretty much ignores level difference penalties), and how going from 4/5 of the set to 3/5 (if you're TPing in cirque scarpe, you're doin' it wrong, or you've got a bizarre TP set up that allows you to hit the gear haste cap w/o haste boots) of the set isn't a massive decrease, and is actually a small decrease to a small % anyway, so you don't lose much.
dustinfoley wrote:
Xilk wrote:
OOOFloW wrote:
Very good info thank you,
Feet for role-reversal actually look good then, use it often to get my pet ready for deactivate->activate.
Too bad the optimization from the hat doesn't work.. could use a pet MAB/MAC+ for the headslot.
The hands i'm not worried about, won't wear them unless it's automaton only fighting, even if fine-tuning does work, i rarely use only my automaton as DD.
Guess could be nice for the Sharpshot frame. Even though i don't know if +13 STR/DEX/AGI from af3+2 would be beaten.
Lastly i'm interested how ventriloquy could even be enhanced... Would it reduce (or increase) hate on both pet and master after use? Does it interfere with dues-ex->ventrilquy->gone from hate list?
Edited, Dec 27th 2011 7:24am by OOOFloW
I teamed up w/ a friend on test server to try to test this using libra on a sch... but really we couldn't figure which direction to even test. How would you enhance an enmity swap? why would you want to?
I would think you would not want to reduce or increase enmity. Sometimes you would want this to put hate on pet, sometimes to take hate from pet... any change in the behavior would most likely be problematic...
On a related note, +2 hands should be full time hands as they let you stay at capped haste and give your pet haste. There is no reason to not use them. Add in moepapa stone and zelus tiara and you get a decent amount of pet haste.
I haven't sat down to calculate it yet, but I think the DA you lose from head/belt more than are made up from the extra 5 % pet haste (if already using 4% pet haste gloves).
I'd really like to see a haste set that can reach the cap and still incorporate Pantin Gloves +2, Moepapa Stone, and Spurrer's Beret. The day we get that, we will have a delicious feast.