Varrying Degrees of SalvageFollow

I pretty much only go COR for boss runs, so my experience only pertains to that. I always go /WHM. I know, flame me, hate me, whatever. An extra paralyna/Erase/Curaga on boss runs saves the day and takes heat off your mages. I tend to only keep the 4 rolls I use on the pallette I use, the rest are on a unused pallete that I can copy and paste from quickly as the need arises. For the most part, farming for 35's would be normal DD rolls to get through mobs as quick as possible. FOR MB's it varies. Sometimes I do 2x DD rolls. If we are light on healing I will sub in MNK roll to cut down on TP spam, and seeing as how MNKs are our tanks it makes a pretty decent impact. For Zhayolm I do 1x DD roll and BLU roll to cut back on "4400 needles" (can't recall the name of the move)

To further expand on my macros:

Ctrl-
1-Mage roll #1
2-Mage roll #2
3-DD roll #1
4-DD roll #2
5-BLM roll (dunno why this is here.. )
6-Snake Eye
7-Paralyna
8-Erase
9-CureIII
0-/ra <t>

Alt-
1-Double-up
2-WS gear
3-WS macro
4-Melee gear (I dont melee much, lot of AoE and it usually isn't worth it)
5-Ballad (also use this pallette if I am /brd for MOAR MPZ)
6-Ice shot
7-Earth shot
8-Light shot
9-Dark shot
0-Pull macro

I could make a lil space for a Curaga macro, but I do that from the menu.

Edited, Jun 12th 2009 10:10pm by ShamanTaru

Wow, that's... exactly what I was looking for. I was leaning towards /whm anyways (I name my ctrl-0 and ctrl-9 macros 'Discharge" and 'Inertia'), but you just condensed what was 2 and a half palettes of semi-useless junk into one neat package I can organize in a more familiar way.

The 4400 Needles thing is new to me, I was unaware that it was magic damage. What other rolls might be useful? I already know about MNKs rolls, and DNC roll for Brainjack, but what about if you have say WAR or SAM as tanks, and no MNK? Would you still use MNK's roll and another roll, or use two different rolls?

Also, do you find it better to change staves for each QD: on normal floors, on some NMs, during certain zones, just for MB? Do you find WS damage to be a factor, or should I concentrate on one or the other?

I go as /whm also but I do not use mp gear as I shoot most of the time anyways. Except against mini chariot and boss, then I camp discharge and inertia. I use Magus/Mnk Roll when fighting ZR boss.

See, this is my problem... I took a modified version of my WAR palette that I used while leveling, so it's all COR/RNG oriented, and that's palette one. Once I hit 75, I took all the /whm some of the /rdm stuff from my BLM book and combined them with the Roll and QD aspect of my existing COR palette, and put them on the next page. I then took all the QD and Rolls that I didn't normally use during leveling, and put them on a separate page for copy/pasting. It's just too clunky for me. Right now I have things set up in a way that it isn't very fast to switch from one page to the next and do things on the fly, So I want to get rid of that altogether. I think I'll go with something like this, maybe:

Alt: (This is exaclty how I have my /rng set, except WS is Fire Shot if I am mainly /ra with WSs, and I have 3 WSs as the first 3 spaces on the top line, followed by Barrage, Sharpshot, etc.)
0 - Idle Gear (Melee with movement speed+ and Orochi Nodowa)
9 - /ra Gear (also my command for /ranged attack)
8 - WS
7 - Light Shot
6 - Dark Shot
5 - Ice Shot
4 - Earth Shot
3 - Fold
2 - Snake Eye
1 - Double Up

Ctrl:
0 - Cure III
9 - Paralyna
8 - Erase
7 - Curaga
6 - Dancer's Roll
5 - Monk's Roll
4 - Fighter's Roll (?)
3 - Chaos Roll
2 - Scholar's Roll
1 - Evoker's Roll

Which leaves only BLU roll out... maybe I put that in ctrl6, and DNC where Curaga is? I'll have to try it out and see how it feels.

As far as when to melee and when not to, I shouldn't have too much of a problem holding back my urge to rush in and swing. I have quite a bit of Salvage experience, I know all the zones fairly well, just from a completely different (and much more carefree) perspective. I just don't want have this kind of responsibility and mess up, so I got to try and stay relaxed, and remember that I'm not a noob. It's all in my head, it's all in my head...

I think most of the other stuff is situational, so if need be I can add a page above this palette with a few things like Blindna and Viruna, etc., but I don't ever remember anything like that being a problem as WAR. Maybe it's all the meds I carry around with me, I guess I'll find out when people start yelling at me for stuff.

I'm waiting for the day when the mob dies in a flash, and I Slug the rampart to smitherines. It has yet to happen in over 2 years, as I'm always overly cautious, but someday...

Doing ramps without auto-attack on sucks =/

<<I'm waiting for the day when the mob dies in a flash, and I Slug the rampart to smitherines. It has yet to happen in over 2 years, as I'm always overly cautious, but someday...

Doing ramps without auto-attack on sucks =/>>

I've seen this happen to other ppl a few times but I've been fortunate. I keep auto attack on though actually. I just make sure I'm facing the rampart and switch target once it spawns a new one (we kill so fast there's rarely more than one mob up.. even on the tragopan and colibri ramparts). When I have tp I usually either disengage or hop over to the next spawn early if possible. Being /whm, I quickly spam my dia II macro then slug it... can't quite 1-shot them but damn I come close lol. But I definitely try to grab a mob that hasn't been hit yet for WS. I can take about 95% of its life with my WS if I have chaos on. I'd love to go /war just ONCE and see how good I could do with berserk and my full WS gear lol.

I'd estimate that Salvage groups lose 19.7% efficiency due to the prescence of naked mithra.

for me i went cor/nin basicly to all my runs on salvage for my skadi set back then...(but then i only got bst/pup/blm/cor lol)

well what subs don't really matter cause u aint gona be getting a SJ cell anytime soon nor would u be even getting a sj cell (for me meh)

as for rolls on mages tend to be evoker/sch/warlock(odd enfeeble)
and for the melee mnk/drk/sam our group worked with that came to conclusion even with war and thf the war/thf rolls werent doing as much (just our group)

well if u got relic u may want to give your group a heads up on hooking you up a headpiece for ur rolls though

Giving turban to mnk sounds good, but giving it to SAM's over a cor is more discussable. It really depends how well the sam or cor are doing.

I started to use my COR recently in salvage, in bhaflau remnant ramparts farms. I go /war there and basically act like the 3rd melee, after the sam and thf (we go there with 5-6 max usually). It's great to basically oneshot rampart's NQ pops and take out 25% of those melee resistants puddings to finish them while still providing mage and melee buffs.

I'm thf usually rest of the runs tho, but I'm sure there will be an opening sooner or later to try cor somehwere else :D

Well yeah, tho the 2 pieces gives 140-160 tp, I never had 180tp meditate personally, I might be wrong.

We don't really give it as priority to our SAM because our SAM sucks bar one, who sadly have to come MNK except on bhaflau ramparts farms. So again, it depends on well how your ppl do.

Nothing wrong with a SAM tanking in Salvage, don't always need MNK!

@.@! Can have a weapon-change macro so you're not destroying your party lol. Won't do much damage with a Wooden Katana or Charm Wand :P

How'd SSMB go?
Was fine until Rust killed our RDM Taru with a crit from Hagun..
<RDM Taru> I'll never get my Bodb's Cuffs... NEVER!!!!!

... WTF guys, he actually put Storm Crackows on for this ...

I went Cor/Whm to Arrapago Remnants tonight. Unfortunately it wasn't until right before the 5th floor chariot that I even got subjob. It actually helped. I found Monk's/Chaos + Dancer's for melee and Evoker's + Scholar's/Healer's for rdm + whm pretty helpful. Wish the NM's would drop something helpful besides Alexandrite tho.