Hmm... Physical Blue Spells Triggering !!'sFollow

My linkshell thinks i'm going crazy, maybe i am, but i could swear that some of my Physical Blue Magic spells are triggering (!!)'s. No one else is attacking the mob, no one is casting on it, i'm certainly not using my TP for weaponskills, and every so often i trigger a !! which displays the usual message of Your attack staggers the fiend and terrorizes it just like a Red !! would. Apparently it "cannot be done because Wiki doesnt say so", but that comment has been a joke for quite some time now.

Gonna go duo some NM's tomorrow, i'll see if i can trigger some more and post some screenshots when applicable.

Have you guys noticed things like this as well?

and you screenshotted it so you could post it and we could see, right?

there are a few physcial spells that trigger yellow !!. this is confirmed and tested.
Seedspray for example is counting as an earth elemental spell that triggers it.

However OP is suggesting he triggers RED !! w/ physical blue spells which is something else entirely.

Also, yeah, need specific spells and screenshots to corroborate this. the info is too sparse.

Were your spells under the effect of Chain Affinity? Perhaps SE gave us more WS qualities than just the ability to skillchain when Chain Affinity is in play.

Just an idea.

The blue spells that trigger grellow have been determined before heroes was released. They are:

Dark: Death Ray, Eyes on Me
Fire: Heat Breath, Firespit
Earth: Magnetite Cloud, Seedspray
Water: Regurgitation, Maelstrom
Wind: Mysterious Light, Hecatomb Wave
Ice: Ice Break, Frost Breath
Lightning: Mind Blast, Blitzstrahl
Light: 1000 Needles, Radiant Breath

Edited, Dec 17th 2010 7:35pm by abenx

What I wonder is if the new spells can trigger. Namely Charged Whisker for Thunder.

I have also seen grellow triggered by cold wave for ice multiple times. I do not have screen shots, but will try and get some next time.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 1:25pm by danco

cause they're usually (in my cases, at least) "holy **** wtf just happened?" moments.

All these random "confirmed" trigger spells are getting old. Wiki seems to change weekly, can we get a grip?
Forever, "Bad Breath" was a trigger. Then Seedspray. Now Sandspin?

Which is it? Is it all of them? Just some?

I can confirm Abenx's list. I've triggered with every spell on there.

You'd think at this point of the game let alone the with how long the internet is out that people would figure out that simply saying something isn't going to prove a damn thing. Hell, I'd think that a SS wouldn't be sufficient evidence for something like this. It's not hard, for instance, to set filters to rule out people in an alliance, thus negating the chatline that would show the proper spell working. This isn't even considering the fact that you see any groups' stagger messages, regardless of if you're with them or not. I got very confused the first time that Disseverment yielded a yellow stagger message while I was fighting a Gullycampa in Abyssea - Attohwa. When I realized someone was fighting the Borer NM right next to me, though, it all made sense.

I'd really like to see a detailed chat log going back at least 10-15 seconds (think Timestamp) with all filters clearly turned off before I'd readily believe that a BLU physical spell (Seedspray, not withstanding) triggers yellow. As for AlternativeOne's claim of doing this with only a MNK. Was the MNK /NIN by chance?

It was either a hallucination or a server error. Normal mobs can't be !!'d. The stagger message occurs if you're in XP range, as well, from all that I can tell (saw it last night when I came back from AFK during the Grauberg Zone Boss - was well out of range and still saw the red !! proc message), so you can't be positive it wasn't an NM. The mob freezing, though, just seems weird. I'd put it down to a glitch, especially since you haven't been able to repeat it. If it happens again, don't forget to SS it.