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Whirl of Rage + Final Sting = Zanshin
Vanity Dive makes Accuracy Bonus

Credit to Rena at BG. Disseverment + Vanity Dive gogogo!

EDIT: Almost forgot, Goblin Rush + Benthic Typhoon = Skillchain Bonus

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 5:45am by Beleren

Zanshin isn't very useful for BLU sadly. In order for Zanshin to proc, you must miss. Most BLU's know that if their ACC is below say 80%, they need more ACC food(pizza/sushi). So there isn't a single instance in the whole game where Zanshin would be useful for the trait alone. If you're soloing trial mobs say EP-T, you should be at the 95% ACC cap anyways. So unless you are setting the spells which just so happen to give the trait, don't bother setting Zanshin. If the proc rate compensated for the loss off sushi, I might see a use for it but it doesn't. Double attack is a far more useful trait despite the fact the spells are more or less useless.

If the zanshin trait we get from this works like the zanshin trait that SAMs get, then to say it's worthless is kinda dumb. Zanshin adds an Accuracy bonus on the repeat swing. According to Wiki, it's +35 accuracy. That's a substantial amount. There was a bunch of math done on it earlier, but to totally discount it is to play it like SAM did before. I'd be interested in seeing if we get the full Zanshin effect (which we should since we're getting it from main) or if we only get the "subjob" effect.

I'd have to run a lot more numbers to see how it would affect BLU and, since I doubt it will affect missing on spells, it's still impacting a much smaller scale of our damage output, but any chance to redeem a hit (especially with the extra accuracy on it) means more TP.

One final note: Final Sting is 1 Set point and Whirl of Rage is 2. Final Sting makes a pretty decent spell, especially if you can use it for full effect, and Whirl of Rage is STR+2/DEX+2 for 2 set points. I'd say that I'd most likely be setting these spells any way. Getting Zanshin is the gravy here.

No, VZX, it hasn't changed much, which means, yes, it'll do more for us with lower accuracy, but no matter what our accuracy, it's still a boost. Especially considering I'll be setting the spells that give it anyway, regardless of whether I wanted Zanshin. We basically don't have to worry about Accuracy nearly as much as we used to with this up, meaning we can gear slightly differently.

I was getting Dual Wield with some of the Empty spells and Final Sting. Tomorrow I'll poke through and figure it out.

It must be QC and Animating Wail. I missed the bit about that in one of the above posts.

No more posting for me at 5am in the morning.

My TP and multihit sets don't have the same amount of accuracy in them before spell and PP bonuses. My base TP set has 46.5 accuracy and prior to this update would have lost some acc with gear improvements. My base spell set has 27. Add 30 accuracy for spells and I'm still only 5% over my TP set hitrate; some drops I'm working towards could conceivably eliminate that advantage, accuracy permitting. I'm willing to bet others have similar accuracy disparities (or lack thereof).

My Head Butt sets have a good bit of acc along with macc and haste so I'm covered regardless, but I'm aware that's not necessarily the case for others depending on how aggressively you're swapping gear. Either way, it's good practice and likely to your advantage to cap accuracy across all your sets whenever possible. It's also fairly easy for the most part, especially on older content.

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 5:55pm by Beleren

Edited, Sep 11th 2010 5:24am by Beleren

Reguarding zanshin: If we had the full 45% proc rate, its quite nice even at 95% acc. The 5% that misses would have a 45% chance of proc and then 95% chance to hit.....or essentially 2+% more damage on melee. Certainly not the best thing we can get, but all things considered, not to shabby either. You could consider its worth on par with 4acc, which is also about 2% damage.

At 90% acc, zanshins benefit is 4+% damage....better than our attack bonus if anyone is counting.

It would be worth noting if the proc was 25% or 45%

I'll probably be setting whirl of rage for the stat bonuses....prob worth the 1 set point for 2% of (melee) damage IMO.

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 7:26pm by doctorugh

DW and H2H are two different things, and we know that Zanshin doesn't work with H2H. I'd try club and/or blind pots. Just remove all your DA gear, stack on the haste, and if you haven't gotten a single Zanshin proc after 5-10 minutes of trials I'd be willing to assert it doesn't stack.

Just talked to Vegetto, Zanshin does not work with Dual Wield.

Just ignore Zanshin's existence. The SAMs usually do.