Why the Heck Wont it Magic Burst?Follow

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I would never rely on the /wait command myself, read the above, topic is near identical.

Due to casting time constraints of most worthwhile MBable spells (of which there are only a handful as it is *wink *wink SE), it's next to impossible to "load" it after and land a MB. "Preload" is the standard.

Yes, the time to burst is short..very annoying. But it's great once you get your timing down..for the most part.



In my exp with this combo, yes. I personally had a seperate macro for CA / Sickle / BA and Drainkiss..this didn't work out so I did my Drainkiss manually just to see if me even doing it asap was even possible to make it MB. After I found that out I did trial and error on wait times depending on my gear. I'm 75 now with Fastcast gear, so my /wait is different from yours, just have to find our wait time.

And yes the post below yours saying how MB'ing is resisted, partially or fully and not displaying the MB? imo, is true. You'll still see a decent amount of MP back to your bar when you do it partially but it won't be shown on the screen.

I didn't equip darkstaff, I don't know why..just didn't put it in so with that macro set up you should find yourself MB'ing your drainkiss much more than I did and mine was rather frequent. So give the macro / d.staff w/ the right wait timer a try...and please let us know if it helped you.

Thank you all very much for the insight. I am going to assume that the resists are the reason that its not showing up in my chatlog. I did not know about that. I was doing some FoV up in Xarcabard so I was just testing it out on Ahriman to see if I could do it (and they have very resistant to dark magic). Also my blu magic skill is about 20 or so levels under cap because I have been helping my wife level her Thf so I have gotten my last few levels while synced into the 20's. I will be skilling up my magic here soon and I will try it out against a not so resistant mob and see what kind of results I get.

Again, thank you all for your help. Oh btw, I was getting jacksh*t for mp return on my drainkisses (usually netting a small mp loss or a very small gain) so I would have to assume they were getting resisted to high hell.

I can MB on MP Drainkiss on a fairly regular basis. Refueling can help on MP Drainkiss recast timer.

But, here's what my Gravitation macro looks like:

/ja "Burst Affinity" <me>
/ja "Chain Affinity" <stpc>
/wait 1
/ws "Red Lotus Blade" <stnpc>
/wait 1
/ma "Sickle Slash" <stnpc>

Then in a separate macro:

/ma "MP Drainkiss" <stnpc>

I try and cast MP Drainkiss when animation is about midway through.

I hope that helps.

Edited for clarification.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2010 7:19am by CrazyBard

Refueling will help his recast timer for MP Drainkiss. That is why he said,

MP Drainkiss base recast: 90s
BA base recast: 120s

Not seeing why you would need Haste for the recast if all you were doing is trying to MB it. >_>

I believe that BLU magic uses the old magicburst window and not the newer and longer 5 second one.

Setting Fastcast seems to increase my successful bursts with MP Drainkiss from 50% to 90%, but you could do your own testing with spells with shorter cast times and animations.

After looking it up on wiki I realize that MP Drainkiss is actually a bit of a slow spell. Couple that with the fact that it's the BLU himself usually having to close his own skillchain for it (meaning you're eating the subsequent 2-3 second JA/spell delay following your CA spell) and that will mean you're actually cutting it pretty close to the end of the MB window. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these attempts at a MB'd MP Drainkiss are actually just being casted late.



Wat.



Don't forget also that if anyone else does any WS (barring a few exceptions, such as Spirits Within, Spirit Taker, Energy Drain, and a few others that do not have skillchain properties) on your mob after your SC, it kills the MB window right then and there. In CB you can pretty much only get reliable SC/MBs if fighting alone.

Edited, Jan 21st 2010 6:37pm by Fynlar

This is pretty much why I stopped bothering. What I do instead is swap in Pluto's Staff for the cast. I'm already losing TP, and it makes it much more accurate either way, and more consistent. While I probably lose a round or swing while doing this, I still prefer doing it that way rather than getting resisted.

When I started I was always under the impression it was 4 seconds? Perhaps Missinformed. I didnt seem to have troubles with pre BA and MB MP Drainkiss. I would agree though about the /wait issue, try to set it on a different macro page so as not to totaly rely on the macro to assume it will calculate. Matter of fact IIRC i have mine set to

/ja "Burst affinity" <me>
/wait 1
/ma "MP Drainkiss" <t>
/equip Blah AF body
/equip Blah Int+
/eqip Blah... Macc +
/equip Blah

I will test mine but i have never changed my weapon, Perhaps its just a weapon change issue. What kind of numbers are you getting
by it self
with BA
with dark staff
with BA dark staff

Then see what they are with an actual burst.

Back in the levels when it was this:

/ws "Red Lotus Blade"
/wait 4
/ma "Sickle Slash" <t>
/wait
/ma "MP Drainkiss" <t>

I got annoyed with it not MBing in the log so this is what I did for that, and for darkness off of VC.

/ws "Red Lotus Blade"
/wait 4
/ma "Sickle Slash" <t>
/wait 2
/ma "MP Drainkiss" <stpc> or just <st>

Get the old purple arrow, press enter when you see the ball like swirl animation of the SC go off and it MBs alls the time while you feel cool for not having macros do all of your action in the game.

Probably the first time I have ever been acknowledged for or possibly have ever given someone helping information about the game on here lol. YW.

Edited, Feb 6th 2010 1:22pm by BelenosSwiftWater