Aurum Cuirass uses?Follow

So yeah, as the title states, where would you rank Aurum Cuirass amoung the following pieces for TP and WS?

ACP Body (Hauby style: Acc and Att +10)
Askar Body

Right now I TP and WS in Phalwandkgjsi Body (assault) until I get my hands on ACP and Askar. Eventually planned on TPing in Askar and WSing in ACP Hauby. Acc not really an issue as I can substitute other pieces as needed. Only ask this because I just won Rank 2 prize! Aurum Body seems to fit my current 75 jobs the best. But would it be just a side step once I get Askar and ACP Hauby?

Thoughts?

Edited, Jun 16th 2009 11:09am by MinscandBoo

Someone win mogbon? :)

Ok then. In an effort to try to get the most bang for my buck, how does Aurum compare when used on WAR and DRK?

My current body choices...

Hauby
ACP (doesn't HAVE to be Hauby style)
Askar

Again, assuming ACC isn't much of an issue.

aurum cuirass is awesome for everything except jump (-VIT). whether it beats hecatomb for WS would depend on sTP and ACC.

if this is a bonanza question, i advise herald's gaiters or gil, whichever is worth more. herald's goes for b/w 12m-15m on my server if i'm not mistaken.

You can buy an Aurum Cuirass for less gil than you can sell the Gaiters for.

V belt?

Got Swift Belt, so don't really NEED V Belt.

There's a BIG difference between already having a haste belt and getting another because it has 2% more haste and less ACC vs. having no haste feet and upgrading to haste feet. IMO, 2% haste is a waste of a marble. Especially when I could upgrade a "meh" body piece to a really good body piece.

All the gear, no idea.

So by your logic, if I already have a great waist piece in Swift Belt, but a not-so-good body piece, I should go with the slight upgrade in the waist piece? Sorry, but this "idiot" is not gonna waste the marble on a slight upgrade. I also don't remember asking about the V Belt, purely wanted to know where Aurum ranked among other body pieces. Thanx for staying on topic.

V Belt is not a slight upgrade, it is probably a 2-4% increase in your overall performance for all those jobs you have depending on how much haste you have. I don't think Aurum Cuirass will give you that big of an improvement honestly.

It is not as good as hauberk for tp for drk and war since acc is still important, and you won't have a hard time getting a 6 hit build if you are using a multi hit ws like KJ and Guillotine with 501 delay weapon. As for WS, Hauberk or heca body are both better. Not to mention if one day you get an adaberk, you will have 0 use for aurum's body for those two jobs.

If you are a GS drk, aurum is great to go with Algol since it gives you a true 6 hit automatically. Great for Subduer for a 7 hit build, which is also powerful. Overkill for Naglering since you only need 23 stp for tp and 22 for ws for a 6 hit build. But then again, since you are using GS, your accuracy is going to be lower, which means you are sacrificing a bit from using a 6 acc body to TP.

As for drg, this is the best TPing piece if you don't want to rely on getting hit or jump for a 6 hit build (homam is pretty darn good, askar is good as well for hit build but lack acc). ACP body with stp +4 and acc +10 is pretty comparible and is free. so you have 3 other choices that are all pretty decent. As for WS, it is also probably the best, but you can pay about 5 mil for a Zahak's and be almost or as good or better (some said it is better).

So IMO, I will say get a v.belt; that's what I would do. Then again, I have adaberk for my drk, and am about to get aurum's body from my LS for my drg (if it will drop), so I am not in your situation. Tho I am pretty sure v.belt out benefits aurum's cuirass.

And honestly, if you can get a v.belt for less than gaiter, go for it. Then use the rest of the money to get zakak's if you can't find aurum's body for sale. My LS sell it for about 1.5-2.5 mil, and I am pretty sure you can find something similar to that in your server.

Hope I am not misleading you....

Speed belt
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=13189

aurum cuirass
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=11282

Even you may be able to understand this.
Compare the wanted prices.

What about it? they aren't made because they suck. This belt has been around since the beguiling of the game and has held sky high prices. That is hardly the same as something useless recently added that just happens to be rare.

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Get the @#%^ing VBelt

Every gear in the game short of black belt, select relics, and kraken club on RNG and DRK zerging are a "minimal upgrade", so pick the one that would save you more money in the future.

But if you're gonna be a dumbass and waste a rank 2, why stop at aurum? Why not just toss your wyrm armet and get another one?

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 12:39pm by ArsDraconis

I'm sorry I try not to be an elitist twat but you're @#%^ing stupid. Also what inbred server are you on where one can buy a vbelt for some magic beans and a reach around?

In a previous post:


You may have intended to see what people thought of the Aurum body piece but the second you wanted the best 'bang for you buck' you no longer wanted to hear opinions. I'm glad to see you've chosen to get the gaiters and sell them. THAT is indeed the best 'bang for your buck' if you wont take this oportunity to get the best tp belt for non-ranged DD's apart from a Niruta's Sash. Which, god willing, should you ever be put into a position to get a chance to lot on, I hope you pass for others who are willing to do more than 10 min of 'thinking'about his gear and then plugging his ears crying like a little kid when others point out how foolish your selection was about to be.

i think most of the reasons you cited were pretty stupid (eg v.belt would actually be a better choice than aurum, though in my opinion gaiters are the best choice). v.belt, however, is a bit too easy to camp (if you have time) to justify spending 10m (gaiters) on it... though, if you don't have time to camp it, it probably would have been a larger upgrade for all the jobs on which you can equip it than whatever you buy with the 10m will be.

Don't ask for advice, ignore it, and then get angry when we don't appreciate you wasting out time.

Get a Joyeuse. DRG can use that.

Sweet tp and ws body, for drg.

But when you have marbles, you need to think about what else you could get and while Aurum Cuirass is neat, Vbelt is awesome for every job that can use it.

Getting 3str/dex 5atk 7stp compared to just 7.75 acc is an improvement. But stp isn't needed for many builds and you can get str/dex/atk/acc from other slots.

You can't get haste in many slots. Because of that reason alone vbelt wins for most players. If you really only care about drg it can be a toss up, but since you have other jobs, it would make more sense to get an item that benefits them all.

Also, you'll see bigger numbers with aurum, so if you don't parse you'll probably feel more accomplished with aurum than vbelt. If you parse, vbelt will win, 2% haste will trump a slight improvement in damage.

But it is your marble and if you want aurum get them. If you are more patient, get the gil or gaiters and then buy aurum. There can't be that high demand for aurum cuirass since it's really only that great for drg.

/sigh

I @#%^ing hate mogbonanza so much.

Ok, Ok... I think we got off on the wrong foot and I apologize for any negative comments. While I do value all of your opinions, here's my stance...

As far as cars go, most would agree that Cadillac is a more valuable car than a Buick. In my opinion, while I'm sure, mathematically, a V Belt is the better choice (Cadillac of TP belts), I'm perfectly happy with my Swift Belt (Buick). Swift is still a great piece, just not as valuable as a V Belt.

As far as my body piece goes, I'm carrying around... a Chevy... Good piece, but not great. From your posts, it's sounding like Aurum would be a Buick or even Cadillac as far as TP goes. As far as all my gear goes, I would rather have all Buicks and a few Cadillacs, rather than have a few Chevys, few Buicks and a couple Cadillacs.

My body piece is pretty low grade, so I was wanting to upgrade that rather than get a top of the line belt. Again, I do see the value in getting a V Belt, but felt upgrading the body was more important as far as my gear goes.

That all being said, I skipped both and went with gaiters to sell as I feel it will more beneficial to upgrade to more TP and WS gear through Sky (and eventually Salvage) and such rather than upgrading one single piece.

Edited, Jun 18th 2009 11:44am by MinscandBoo

I don't know about your server, but on Gilgamesh, selling a pair of Gaiters will not only buy you an Aurum Cuirass, it will also buy you a Valkyrie's Fork.

Just sayin'.

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 9:15pm by Aliekber

Pal, opinions and facts aside.

Let me give you what I'm sure it's a good advice:

*/em gently pats MinscandBoo in the back*
Take the belt.

Later, once you understand why I suggested you to do so you won't need to regret about your decision.

But whatever you do, have fun with your new gear, congratulations!

Ken.

Here's the other thing. Someone mentioned that they would spend 30 mil on +1% haste on their hands. Considering I normally carry around 500k gil on average, it is difficult to see the sense in wasting a 14 mil marble (by selling gaiters) on 2% more haste. Again, I can certainly see the value in the V Belt, but spending that kind of gil on it just doesn't make much sense to me. I would compare it to driving by a trailer park and seeing a brand new Cadillac sitting in someone's driveway.

If I were in a better position gil-wise, then I probably would have went with V Belt, but given my play time (and that it is mostly filled with end game events) I just don't have a whole lot of time to raise a lot of gil. Also, one thing to keep in mind, if I had went with Aurum, it's not like that would have made my character worse. I mean, I could understand if I was coming here saying, "How does a Bronze Harness compare to Askar and ACP Hauby?"

Ultimately I went with gaiters and they sold yesterday for 14 mil.