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Trial 1597 - Unleash Tachi: Koki 300x times on experience-yielding monsters of the Birds ecosystem.

Where is the best place for this?
My first though was colibri's but with tickle not a great idea...

So many..... so many bats..... why.... WHY!!!..... WHY SE WHY!!!!!

lol thanks ^^ i'll check it out. 300 koki's will be a B***CH but Koki is TH+(over 9,000) so i'll get like 8 bat wings a kill.... (how bats that have two wings drop 3+ is byond me...[or how mobs drop "VIALS" of blood] lol)

toramai canal has lots too

I did it in sky. Took a couple hours. Birds were rough during JP time, only killed like 20, since 100+ people there. NA time was only thirty so I rocked the rest out.

@ Sandmaster: I know that before the update I was working on thunder katana for NIN and the funguars in Crawlers Nest [listed on wiki as 51-54] were all too weak for my 80 NIN. The ones the Boyahda Tree [listed 60-63?] were, and still are EP.

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 9:09am by Palides

Yeah that's what I did. A little bit spread out but enough of them to support 1 or 2 people.

Then I followed up with Crabs in Kuftal Tunnel for the store tp one although now I'm wondering if I should have went for the WS damage one.

If the AF3 armor is anything of an example, these weapons may be upgraded to a +2 version, but who knows.

If anything, it is a nice easy holdover, and doesn't take very long to complete. I've also made about 50 BS, and 35 KS in the mean time, which is a nice chance at a few mil, and a sure chance at 300k.

I'm on the last trial and should have it completed by tomorrow. Currently SAM 83.5; when I reach 85 I'll give as much feedback about the weapon as I can. From the limited testing I've done so far, on EP mobs in no STR gear, the dmg is literally equivalent, the kasha + 10% bonus does pull slightly ahead. Overwhelm by far stacks in Hagun's favor.

Quick story time:

I was meriting earlier for about 3 hours,[guess I should say leveling now, old habits...] in Abyssea Kons. on those lovely Wivres.[Its a great camp by the way, really amazing to see 9 + wivres being pulled, slept, and our THF went right back out to get more, because they would all be dead within a couple of minutes. Very terrifying with all of that mass around you, lol]

Sam1 - full usu, hagun; tp'd in standard r/e: justice, brutal, bushi, rajas, flame, no v belt [WS'd in full usu... wruuuuuu]
Sam2 - me standard turban/haub+1/dusk/byakko/fuma/bushi/raja/swift/etc [ws gear here ]
Sam3 - Pretty much the same as me but he had Ace's
Sam4 - full perle, soboro, didn't check him

With hasso, haste, double march, and 10% haste samba... I literally could not keep up with the amount of TP I was being given. 3 out of the 4 sams in the ally were all still using Hagun, while I swapped back and forth between 10% kasha Keiton, and Hagun. The fourth sam was using full perle and Soboro. DoT was obviously superior for Keiton, WS numbers were fairly even, but any TP overflow and Hagun went !@#$%@#$^@^!#$^ numbers. I never broke 1k on Keitonotachi, but hit 1k+ several times on Hagun at 100-110%, with a high of 1.5k, sitting around 685 attack SAM82/NIN41 at 140ish% TP. All the 200% haguns resulting from sekkanokis were at a flat 1k.

I point this out because many times in abyssea you cannot get a killshot, and your TP must be held. MANY OTHER TIMES IN HIGH HASTE SITUATIONS there is such TP overflow that you miss a hit [or a double attack] and are left with the tp. I'm one of the sams that when allowed to /WAR will voke, and moving to the mob for overwhelm. When I'm /DRG or /NIN, I'm shadowing the PLD or first voker, making sure I move as little as possible, and busting out that overwhelm the first second I can. Even being agressive, with great buffs, and a great backline, not all things are as simple as theory or mathcrafting would predict. A parse is a great tool to judge your own accuracy, your gear choices, your food choices. It can be misleading to apply a mathematical situation in the void, against the actual reality.

Food yellow curry buns [atk down,] full timed hasso as much as I could without being a burden.

TL;DR? -- I'll test the weapon more when it's unlocked. I suspect additional trials will further cement its position ahead of our old compatriot. I still carry Hagun, and I probably always will because I like it [I still have Magoroku lulz.] If you haven't checked out the Wivre camp, do so. Nothing like the ground shaking madly while you and 3 other samurai brethren storm and SC the sh!t out of things and dirty devilish blackmages make them all disappear from your skillchains.

Best guess is either the Soldier Pephredos in Wajaom or the bees at the entrance area of Ifrit's Cauldron.

I'm really hating doing the 300 Tachi: Kasha kills on beasts for the last stage of the WS DMG+10%. I've had at least 5 times where I WS and take the mob to 1% and then smack it dead with a regular swing. I have had a couple groups come and leech beast kills off of me. I don't really mind. It does hurt the little XP I was getting, but it keeps them from competing for me on mobs.

The one hive that I know of that very few players seem to go to is the one by the ??? for the ZNM Vulpangue in Wajaom Woodlands, most likely because it's just so far out of the way that most players don't want to take the time to make that trip.

yeah, I wish I could tweak my NPC to just Pro/shell/haste(on me, not her)/Dia.

The silly woman keeps wasting mp on debuffs that don't land and feeding mob tp with her low dmg strikes.

I finished the bird path just earlier. While perhaps a bit troublesome at times, Lesser Colibri worked just fine. No one was hunting them anymore on Valefor, so i had the entire place to myself. Kills were quick, and the whole Feather Tickle thing only took away one WS every 5 or so i threw out. Perhaps i was just a little lucky, but i havent lost an incredible amount of TP to them. I'd like to say the benefit of incredibly easy, fast and plentyful monsters outweight the lost TP every now and then. Also, Colibri resist Koki a little more than Bats who are actually weak against light, so you might get more WS's per mob too.

A place to avoid however is Upper Delkfut's Tower. While described in the Wiki as a good spot to hunt, Floor 12 has a level 85 NM up at almost all times that aggro's and makes picking out bats troublesome. Floor 11 has Giga's who like nothing more than giving you a poke as well. Not to mention linking is a bit problem when it comes to the bats up there. Your main target with Signet on wont be too bad, but the second one will take chunks out of your hitpoints rather fast. I spend my first 50 kills up there, and after a while i just couldn't take it anymore how careful i had to be not to get myself in a dangerous position.