o kotesFollow

i'm planning on leveling sam and i'm wondering if o kotes ever get replaced as a TP piece and if so at what level. the reason i'm asking this is i know i'll need them but i don't want to waste a ton of time if i can just get the rare ones now and sell them later. if they are used forever i guess i'll bite the bullet and camp them.

Edited, Jul 5th 2009 5:09am by psubond

Before Y/G/K your primary ws will be multi-hit (Enpi, Jinpu, Penta). General rules for gearing multi-hit ws are to stack acc and atk over all else. Okotes give the most atk over acc in that slot.

Okotes ARE hard to come by, but if you're going to skip them for the sake of "not needing them once you get to 70-75," then I suppose you might as well skip Soboro as well, since you only use them for a portion of your SAM career. As well as haste shoes, af helm, raja's, bushi, etc. Clarification: There are a few pieces that have some difficulty in their acquisition, but not getting these pieces will have an impact on how your SAM performs.

Really there's not THAT much to gearing SAM to 75, the trickiest part is figuring out STP and even that has a sticky from 1-75. Spend the time to get the okotes and enjoy not having to worry about TP hand pieces until 70~75 (or dusk).

Also, I recommend farming the gill over camping for the okotes. When you finally do replace them, you can always sell them back and use the gil towards a Hagun when that time comes.

Edit: Clarity



Edited, Jul 5th 2009 4:56pm by DenjinOfLeviathan

@34, you'll be outdamaged by every SAM you meet who has okote unless you eat food and they don't, so don't listen to this "o's kote are unnecessary bullsh*t". the item does more than the rest of your gear put together, and while its value slowly goes down as your ATT goes up, when you can equip them they raise melee and WS DoT vs XP mobs by around 20%~ (varying pretty strongly depending on buffs, debuffs, food, etc). i assure you that people who say "meh, o's kote are a luxury item; you don't need them" don't know this, which is why they say it.

that said, yeah, buy'em. they get replaced by dusk or hachiman (the latter for a 6-hit setup), both of which are drastically cheaper, freeing up a bunch of gil for other upgrades.



your tone seems to imply that you are a very wise samurai. please tell me the difference between haste shoes before and after "stacking 10%". also, please tell me the DoT difference b/w fed kyahan and fuma kyahan.

Edited, Jul 5th 2009 5:18pm by milich

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This guy has a lot to learn about Samurai

Okotes are, as said, the single best gear piece you will have. Until haubargeon.

They are a bitch to camp though. I know. 0/58. I ended giving up on camping it forever.

Options that you have are simple: Camp the bastard, Buy the non - R/E ( about 800k on my server ), or get Horomusha. While not as good, horomusha should cost about half the price of okotes.

Either way, you should make the effort to get one. It is the best piece of gear you will have for your hands until dusk gloves, by *far*. After 73, they arent used on SAM anymore - you will use Dusk for tp and Pallas / Alkys for WS.

O Kotes last SAM till 70, MNK forever.

You WILL want them around for level sync and level capped stuff.

You can get SAM to endgame without them. Wearing the alternatives you do less damage.

I never had them as SAM. I didn't take MNK past 35 till I had them.