Ok, this is a ridiculously long post. It aims to explain Store TP options at all levels in an effort to help people make gear choices with regards to certain hit builds.
This is a guide, it isn’t going to make the decisions for you. It will; however, list out all the possibilities (unless I missed some) and you can make the choice depending on your gear/gil.
Store TP Chart:
This chart shows the Store TP required from gear or food to achieve certain “Hit Builds”
Use it by taking the delay of your weapon at your particular level and going across to see the Store TP required from gear and food to get the Hit Build you want:
The Store TP Chart with no Store TP Trait:
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - 10 - - - - 23 - - - -41 - - - - 64 - - - -***
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - 10 - - - - 23 - - - -41 - - - - 64 - - - -***
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -8 - - - - -21 - - - 38 - - - - 61 - - - --***
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -5 - - - - -17 - - - 34 - - - - 57 - - - --86
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -3 - - - - -15 - - - 32 - - - - 54 - - - --83
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -1 - - - - -13 - - - 29 - - - - 51 - - - --81
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - -9 - - - -25 - - - - -46 - - - -74
464 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - -3 - - - -18 - - - - -37 - - - -64
480 - - - - 13.0 - - - -0 - - - - -0 - - - -10 - - - - -29 - - - -54
So the chart shows, as we all know, for a 450 delay weapon you need +46 Store TP to get a 6 hit build.
Anything above 87 Store TP required was omitted because 87 is the most you can get from gear and food and job traits and merits (without even a thought of practicality).
At each level where new gear and traits becomes available I will update the chart with the Store TP number required to get a certain Hit Build.
I will delete any build that is not possible with available gear at that level.
I will also offer my thoughts on the gear presented. These thoughts are my own and in no way should be taken as anything more than the opinion of one player. My opinions will be based on a lot of the gear discussions on these forums.
Weapon delay:
Weapon delay is the determining factor in TP gain. The most common Samurai weapons are in the delay range of 396-480 (polearms and great katanas). The TP Gain equation for this range is:
396-450: TP = 5.0 + ([Delay-180]*6.5)/270
450-480: TP = 11.5 + ([Delay-450]*1.5)/30
Store TP:
Each point of Store TP increase TP gain by 1%. So Store TP +10 = 10% increase.
10 TP return + 10 Store TP = 10 * 1.1 = 11 TP new return
TP is always truncated (not rounded) at one spot passed the decimal. So:
11.5 TP with +10 Store TP = 11.5 * 1.1 = 12.65 = 12.6 *note the 0.05 dropped off.
So here we go!
---Level 10---
Store TP I: Store TP +10
Max Store TP available from gear: +6 (food, using Carbonara as the food in all these discussions)
The chart:
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 13
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 13
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 11
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - -7
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - -5
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - -3
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - -0
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - -0
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - -0 - - - -0
Sumamry:
The first Store TP job trait makes all Great Katanas a 9 Hit and anything above 450 delay an 8 Hit. Also makes 480 delay weapons a 7 hit.
The only other possible +Store TP is from food…and there is no reason to be popping carbonara in the Dunes.
---Level 30---
Store TP II: Store TP +15
*Rajas Ring: STR +2~5 DEX +2~5 "Store TP" +5 "Subtle Blow" +5
Amazing piece of gear. Since the adjustment to the 2 hand buff, this has lost some of its appeal at lower levels. I personal wear this on all 2 handed weapon jobs after 30 but if you don’t need the Store TP, an ACC ring might be a better choice.
If you don’t have this, most X-hit builds will require too many sacrifices to be practical.
Max Store TP Available: +11 (Rajas, Food)
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - -8
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - -8
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - -6
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - -2
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - -0
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - -0
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - -0 - - - -10
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - -0 - - - - 3
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - -0 - - - - 0
Summary:
Rajas rocks, but unless you are sporting a 464 delay weapon, by itself it won’t affect any Hit Builds.
If you want your 450 delay GKT to get to 7 hit, pop some food. But I still don’t think it is worth it.
Some of the lower delay GKT are getting into the 8 Hit range thanks to the second tier of the Job Trait.
---Level 50---
Store TP III: Store TP +20
Shinimusha hara-ate: DEF: 37 "Store TP" +9
A pain to get but from lvl 50-59 it’s a nice piece of gear to have. Gives a lot of options including a 6 hit build at 50 if you use food. At 59 tho, use Hauby.
Shinimusha haidate: DEF: 27 "Store TP" +6
Awesome piece of gear. If you don't have Rajas then this will get you to a 7 hit at lvl 50. Use the chart below to see if this will affect your Hit Build. Getting to a 7 Hit at 50 is nice, but remember, too much Store TP is usually a waste (escpecially in the legs spot where there are some nice Str/Attk options in the 50s)
*Ecphoria Ring: ACC +4 "Store TP" +1
Not a terrible ring. One less ACC than Snipers with a touch of Store TP to boot. If you need +1 Store TP to get to the next hit build then this is great.
Max Store TP Available: +27 (JSE Pants/Body, Rajas, Ecphoria, Food)
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 3 - - - --21
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 3 - - - --21
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 1 - - - --18
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --14
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --12
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --9
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --5 - - - - -26
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --0 - - - - -17
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --0 - - - - -9
Summary:
A new Job Trait, a ring and some JSE are making lower hit builds possible. The first time I’d even consider food for the Store TP bonus (6 Hit w/450 delay at 50).
Rajas alone will get your shiny new soboro to a 7 Hit (^.^)b
---Level 60---
Bushido Cape: DEF: 7 Evasion +1 "Store TP" +1 "Subtle Blow" +1 Enhances "Zanshin" Effect
Meh. At lvl 61 Amemet’s Mantle comes along which is waaaaay better than this.
Chivalrous Chain: DEF: 4 STR +3 Accuracy +5 "Store TP" +1
I use this full time at 75. Great piece of gear.
Omokage: DMG: 66 Delay: 420 DEX +4 "Store TP" +2
Unique since it is one of 2 GKT that give Store TP full time. Omokage + Rajas + Chiv Chain + JSE pants = 7 Hit build. I’d be a lot better if the delay was 450 (and the base damage a little higher). Better options out there, included for uniqueness and completeness.
Max Store TP Available: +29 (JSE Pants/Body, Rajas, Echporia, Chiv Chain, Bushido Cape, Food)
With Omokage: +31
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 3 - - - --21
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 3 - - - --21
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 1 - - - --18
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --14
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --12
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --9
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --5 - - - - -26
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --2 - - - - -17
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - --0 - - - - -9
Summary:
A few new gear choices. The only one I really like is the Chiv Chain.
While I say there is +29 Store TP available, remember, you should be using Hauby so there is only +20 Practical Store TP available.
---Level 70---
Store TP IV: Store TP +25
Attila's Earring: "Store TP" +1
If this gets you to a lower Hit Build consider it. I would drop a Coral Earring for this…maybe even a Fowling if it got me to 6 Hit, but not Bushinomimi.
Hachiman sune-ate (+1): DEF: 17(18) STR +2(+3) "Store TP" +5(+6) Weapon Skill Accuracy +2(+3)
Nice set of boots. They can be used in combination with different gear to get 6 Hit Builds all the way to 75.
Hachiman Hakama (+1): DEF: 36(37) "Store TP" +3(+4) Weapon Skill Accuracy +6(+7) Latent Effect: Ranged Attack +7(+8)
The only reason to use this is for landing Sidewinder. If you need pants for Store TP use the lvl 50 JSE pants.
Hachiman Kote (+1): DEF: 19(20) STR +4(+5) "Store TP" +8(+9) Latent Effect: Attack +10(+12)
Nice set of gloves. They can be used in combination with different gear to get 6 Hit Builds all the way to 75. Don’t consider the latent helpful. It is only active above 100 TP and the whole point of a lower Hit Build is to fire off a WS as close to 100 TP as possible so the latent won’t be on much at all.
Hachiman Domaru(+1): DEF: 47(48) STR +8(+9) Store TP +6(+7) Weapon Skill Accuracy +8(+10)
See the notes under Hakama. Hauby should still be on. However, I will come back to this as part of the WS and Store TP section.
*Nobushi Kyahan: DEF: 18 Accuracy +4 "Store TP" +4 Enhances Effects of Rice Balls
Nice boots. ACC is always welcome. If these keep you at a 6 hit, I’d use over amir and AF2 till 75 when Merits (or Usu boots) can compensate for the loss of Store TP.
*White Tathlum: HP+15 MP+15"Store TP" +2 Enimity -2
Unique in that it is the only ammo that gives Store TP. If it gets you a 6 hit, use it. But the Black Tathlum is much much sexier.
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -13 - - - - 36
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 9 - - - - -32
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 7 - - - - -29
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 4 - - - - -26
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0- - - - --21
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -12- - - - 39
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -4 - - - - 29
Max Store TP Available: +44 (not optimal, just max: JSE Body/Pants, Hachi Hands/Feet, Bushido Cape, Attila’s Earring, Rajas, Chiv Chain, Echporia, White Tathlum, food)
Summary:
The final Tier of our Job Trait puts most weapons at the 7 Hit.
The Hachiman series of gear has some great Store TP Bonus to it. 6 Hits start being more practical (Hachi Hands/Feet, Rajas, Lvl 50 JSE Pants, Chiv Chain will be more than enough).
Through out the 70s some other nice gear comes along and you will have to decide if/when you want to give up the 6 Hit Build to maximize your damage.
A few new accessories are making some decisions easier (Nobushi is a nice option).
*---Level 72---
*Enkidu's Subligar: DEF: 40 STR +4 DEX +4 "Store TP" +5 "Subtle Blow" +5
New addition. Damn nice pants. Best Store TP pants in the game for melee. Makes a 6 hit at 72 very nice.
If you can get this, I’d recommend the following build:
Hachi hands, Rajas ring, Enkidu’s sub, Nobushi Feet: 47 Store TP. Hello not-gimp 6 hit before merits.
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -13 - - - - 36
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 9 - - - - -32
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 7 - - - - -29
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 4 - - - - -26
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0- - - - --21
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -12- - - - 39
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -4 - - - - 29
Max Store TP Available: +44 (not optimal, just max: JSE Body/Pants, Hachi Hands/Feet, Bushido Cape, Attila’s Earring, Rajas, Chiv Chain, Echporia, White Tathlum, food)
Summary: Enkidu’s creates the best pre-merit 6-hit available (in my opinion).
---Level 74---
Myochin Haidate +1: DEF: 40 HP +15 STR +5 VIT +5 Parrying skill +10 "Store TP" +4
Arguably the best AF upgrade there is. One of the best WS pants in the game and a nice Store TP option for melee if you need it. Was king of Store TP pants till Enkidu’s came along.
Saotome Domaru: DEF: 50 HP +34 VIT +6 "Store TP" +3 Enmity +1
There is no reason to wear this, even for the Store TP. Included it for completeness.
*Almah’s Torque: "Store TP" +2 "Subtle Blow" +2
If you wear this over chiv chain or PCC for store TP, I will smack you.
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
378 - - - - 9.7- - - - - 0 - - - -4 - - - - 23
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -13 - - - - 36
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 9 - - - - -32
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 7 - - - - -29
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 4 - - - - -26
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0- - - - --21
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -12 - - - - 39
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -4 - - - - 29
Summary:
No change to the max Store TP available, but if you can maintain a 6 hit with the AF Haidate +1 then it is time to switch out the lvl 50 JSE. But Enkidu’s is still the better option.
---Level 75---
Saotome Domaru +1: DEF: 51 HP +34 VIT +7 "Store TP" +5 Enmity +1
Still worthless…even more so since it is no longer free.
Brutal Earring: Enhances "Double Attack" effect "Store TP" +1
Just wow. Even without the Store TP this would still be the top choice to wear.
Futsuno mitama: DMG: 84 Delay: 480 DEX +8 "Store TP" +8 Latent effect: STR +8
Hehe, ya I know. But 480 delay and +8 Store TP!! 5 hit here we come! But ya, no one has this.
Askar Korazin: DEF: 49 STR +5 Attack +12 Evasion +12 "Double Attack" +2% "Store TP" +5 Set: Max HP Boost
Honestly, in these post 2 hand update times, if I had Byakko’s Haidate, I’d wear this over Hauby. The main draw is the possibility of not trading any + Haste gear for Hachi gear to get the 6 hit. There are so many good gear options in the hands and feet that being forced to use Hachi for a 6 hit is annoying.
Edit: I lied. Many people, including my self, underestimated (or still do underestimate) the importance of the +ACC on hauby. If this gets you a 6 hit and you feel like you can stomach a 5% decrease in hit rate, feel free. I for one still sport my Hauby...even after getting kitty pants.
Usukane Haramaki: DEF: 40 STR +8 DEX +8 INT +8 Accuracy +12 Evasion +12 Store TP +6 Set: Enhances Haste effect
Nice piece of gear. Same bonus as Askar Body with some different stats (no attack, more acc). Hard and expensive to get, but nice.
Usukane Sune-Ate: DEF: 22 Accuracy +7 Attack +7 Store TP +7 Haste +2% Enmity +5 Set: Enhances Haste effect
The best SAM boots in the game. Period.
*Pachiopachio: DMG: 82 Delay: 480 Accuracy -6 Attack +12 "Store TP" +2
The only other 480 GKT besides Futsuno. Need 29 Store TP from gear and merits to get the 5 hit. Assuming full merits, Hachi hands, Rajas, Brutal and Chiv chain you are at 27 (including +2 on Pachio). Gotta find 2 more Store TP somewhere. Ecphoria is an option. Also might be able to pack some Store TP on your WS to make up for it.
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
378 - - - - 9.7- - - - - 0 - - - -4 - - - - 23 - - - - 47
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -16 - - - - 39
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - -13 - - - - 36
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 9 - - - - -32
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 7 - - - - -29
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 4 - - - - -26
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0- - - - --21
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -12 - - - - 39
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - -4 - - - - 29
And with full Merits:
Delay - - - TP - - - 9 Hit - - 8 Hit - - 7 Hit - - 6 Hit - - 5 Hit
378 - - - - 9.7- - - - - 0 - - - -0 - - - - 13 - - - - 37
396 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 6 - - - - - 29
399 - - - - 10.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 6 - - - - - 29
407 - - - - 10.4 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 3 - - - - - 26
420 - - - - 10.7 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - - 22
428 - - - - 10.9 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - - 19
437 - - - - 11.1 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - - 16
450 - - - - 11.5 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - - 11 - - - 39
464 - - - - 11.8 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - - 2 - - - - 29
480 - - - - 12.2 - - - -0 - - - - 0 - - - - 0 - - - - - 0 - - - - 19
Max Store TP Available: +46
Summary:
Merits make choices easier and you get to sacrifice less good gear.
5 hit on 480 delay polearms and pachio is more practical (and on Futsuno…but ya).
Lots of options. Make smart decisions to balance Attk/Acc/Haste while getting the 6 hit.
There it is everyone. Pick your level, pick your weapon and make your gear choices.
Remember, the goal is to get a lower hit build without sacrificing too much Attk/Acc and still getting a little Haste.
---WS and Store TP---
Starting at lvl 60 people start macroing +Str gear for WS. It is important to make sure your WS gear doesn’t kill your current hit build.
Since SAM usually start a camp with TP from Meditate, an X-hit build is built of one WS hit and X-1 melee swings. I’m only going to focus on 7 and 6 hit builds on 450 delay weapons.
So:
7 hit build:
6 melee + 1 WS hit
6 (melee TP) + 1*(WS TP) > 100 TP
At lvl 60 you can get a 7 hit with just Rajas. You should be TPing and WS in Rajas so your 7 hit will be fine.
However, if using JSE pants and no Rajas and WS in +STR/Attk pants we have:
Melee TP = 1.26 * 11.5 = 14.4
WS TP = 1.20 * 11.5 = 13.8
6 (14.4) + 1(13.8) = 100.2 woot, no issues.
The extra store TP from JSE pants during melee hits compensates for loss of Store TP on WS. If using Chiv Chain also then you are definitely made in the shade.
6 Hit gets a little more complicated.
5 melee + 1 WS hit – so less melee hits means there is less compensating for lack of Store TP on WS.
5 (melee TP) + 1*(WS TP) > 100 TP
So melee set up:
Rajas, Hachi Hands/Feet, Chiv Chain, JSE pants = Store TP + 25
Melee TP = 1.5 * 11.5 = 17.2
But WS setup will prob change. Dropping the JSE pants for + STR and Hands for Gigas Hands.
WS TP = 1.36 * 11.5 = 15.6
5 (17.2) + 1(15.6) = 101 TP nice! WS gear swap still ok.
If you don’t have Rajas, just go full attack/acc set up….unless you want to full time Hachi Domaru…which I have trouble recommending…especially if you are sporting a Soboro.
* At 75 it is more complicated. Most people are not meleeing in Hachi gear and to be honest, without Rajas and some merits, a 7 hit will prob be your best bet. Enkidu’s will make this much more possible.
That in mind, going to assume merits and Rajas for this discussion.
Melee gear: need +11 to get 6 hit
Melee TP = 1.46 * 11.5 = 16.7
5 * 16.7 = 83.5
100-83.5 = 16.5
(16.5/11.5) = 1.44
So you need 44 total Store TP on WS to keep 6 hit. Which is 9 store TP from gear.
That being said, +5 from Rajas, +1 from Chiv Chain will get you to +6, only need 3 more (and if you have Brutal you should be using that so that is +1 also).
Some nice options are:
AF+1 pants: +5 Str is nice for WS and the +4 Store TP is what you need
Hachi Feet: Not great for meleeing at 75 (AF2, Amir) but a viable WS Store TP option.
Hachiman Domaru: It has +Str, it has +WS Acc, it has a lot of Store TP. If you have no other choices this isn’t a terrible idea to get the WS Store TP you need.
Also, Hachiman Domaru is the equivalent of 4 Store TP merits. Might be an option for WS gear while trying to get those last few merits to max out Store TP.
*Enkidu’s Subligar has +4 Str and +5 Store TP. Dropping 1 Str from WS to achieve a 6 hit is very, very, very worth it.
Keep in mind TP return on WS!
* = updated 6/27/08
Edit: TP calc for delays > 450 was incorrect
Edited, Nov 12th 2007 12:57pm by akisushiva
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 2:34pm by akisushiva
Edited, Apr 7th 2008 12:13pm by akisushiva
Edited, Jun 27th 2008 10:55am by akisushiva
Edited, Jan 24th 2009 7:20pm by Kaolian
Edited, May 4th 2009 2:04pm by akisushiva





