Blade: Kamu the MysteryFollow

I believe that there are more to these mythic weaponskills that we currently know of. Right now on BG the talk is mainly about Insurgency because that is where more people are seeing strange spikes. I don't believe you will find a lot of players talking about Kamu mainly because of the DD menatily of "Blade: Jin Damage or better"

Some of the evidence of the weaponskills have been seen in Insurgency, Expiacion, and Primal Rend. With Insurgency and Expiacion, there have been strange spikes reported when the TP returned is normal (no double/triple attacks etc). However in the case of Insurgency, someone reported only landing 2/4 hits, yet the damage output was the same as landing all 4 hits. In the case of Expiacion, the WS was done at 200% on a Fallen major and did close to 700 dmg, but then it was done again on a much weaker Wingrat at 100% TP and it only did around 300 dmg.

It has been said before that weaponskills cannot Critical unless it is in the description or forced via Sneak attack of Mighty Strikes. I believe that there are one of two things going on here: Either the Mythic Weaponskills do not follow the trend of earlier weaponskills not being able to do a critical unless forced or stated in the help message, or the new weaponskills have a small % chance to proc double damage on one of the hits. Now since the later sounds a bit silly, I am willing to go with it being a critical hit during the weaponskill.

Edited, Oct 25th 2008 2:05am by ImmortalAlchemist

At this point no I would not laugh at just about anything. When I first read about Kamu I was not impressed with the testing and could not just immediately call it crap. I should have been flattening the mobs in The sanctuary of Zitah but I was not instead the normal non spikes did 300-400 the exact same on Steelshells in tree without defense buff on.

I have Atonement as well and it acts a hell of alot like Atonement in its extreme consistency when you factor out double attacks. Death Blossom same sort of consistency but I never saw a damage spike w/o a double attack.

Its like Pdif means jack for these ws, when I berserked I saw no notable increase in damage but clearly a reduction in damage when crabs used defense boost.

I have a suspicion that these are pure stat ws sorta like magical ws but with ability to crit/da and miss hits like a physical.

You say this like people are dismissing Kamu without cause. Fact of the matter is, it's consistently a full 300 damage worse than a mediocre Blade: Jin, and the accuracy down effect is not significant enough to eyeball. It's useful to make a Light skillchain, but that seems to be its only real utility unless someone actually bothers to unlock Nagi.

The Acc down is actually pretty easy to see if fighting the same mob type for extended periods of time after not using it. Lucky for me after unlocking Kamu I helped friend unlock mnk and another whm friend with black halo. I went from 3+ shadow casts per fight down to 1 sometimes 2 at end of mobs life. This was always stacked with blind.

Its doubtful you will see the difference on a higher level mob that has capped acc against you. But the affect is there.

Tummie I hear you and I get what you are saying. However I do not agree with the peoples line of reasoning. And I still think BG extremely unorganized forum style has there colective heads up Darknights ass. Just click on about any other thread its always about Drk this and Drk that. Because for some reason Drk attracts Thug wannabee E-tards. And there forums are modded by a drama fest group of extremely questionable characters.

Yet this is where we are pulling the gospel from? And closing the book on WS that clearly CAN do much better damage. People were saying Mnk ws sucked badly until a few smart Mnk stepped up and said nope this WS kicks the hell outa HNM. Something Mnk was lacking.

Which Campaign Mobs? Most have notoriously high Acc for there assumed level. The quads I usually fight vary greatly in every way from battle to battle. You have to remember with Campaign the mobs level does change with battles won and lost. I usually Pld for Campaign and I can tell you they hit like a ton of bricks for a 70ish mob.

One thing to note was that lowering the defense of target did impact damage another thing I tested over time. However the use of berserk seemed to do jack unless I got a DA in which case it became difficult to quantify what ammount of boost was a DA, Berserk, or one of the many strange double damage spikes.

Ha I even thought I had it down as dusk to dawn ws until I got a bunch of spikes in a row during day time. As of now I am trying to think of Ninja related themes that may direct me to more testing.

I will start with coffee testing, as this will be the easiest to quantify.