ThePsychoticOne, Assassin Reject wrote:
I try to be a tank in merits because it gets me xp faster, or at least, seems to. If I leave it up to anyone else, or let it bounce around, the mages end up curing like hell and everyone loses haste, slowing mob death. Perhapes it's different for others but in my experience thats how it's played out.
if one person has hate, you get 6 shadows on a ~20/~30 sec recast. if 3 people share hate, you have 18 shadows, in the same amount of time.
if hate is bouncing around well, there should be next to no curing being done, except maybe some regens to cover some stray hits/tp moves.
That's quite true, 3-4 people subbing /nin will have the potential to mitigate more damage that just I alone would ever be able to do. And maybe this is limited to the fact I do most of my merits with friends but when I am there they tend to sub /war (i.e. sam/war, war/sam, drg/war, drg/sam etc. etc.) "because" they are able to with me without there being an overabundance of curing going on.
In the past and even in today's 2hand update era I've been able to hold hate for nearly the duration of any merit mob (20-40 seconds, tops) because of the way I look at merits and NIN's roll there-in. I swap in 6 Enmity with every voke, including the first voke. I gear my Nin for damage the same as I once geared my War. I gear to do the most damage possible, same as any DD would.
As I said it's what gets me faster xp, the DD's are able to worry less about the business of taking damage and worry more about the business of Doing damage. They make it their goal to rip hate off me, I make it my goal do keep hate, through both raw damage dealt, and enmity produced.
I've not done a pick-up style merit party in quite some time, until this past weekend I could probably count on one hand the amount of them I've been in in the last 6 months, but I needed a buffer so I threw my flag up. It was late (2AMish) so only ones seeking were JP and I subsequently ended up in a 5member JP and me party. Conversation was limited but after 30 minutes we had to stop, the 2 wars and the one drg wanted to go change sub, all from /nin, to /sam.
It's not to toot my own horn that I say these things, it's just to reflect that bouncing hate isn't always the best way to go about it. That's just what I've seen in my experience. No, a evasion nin with enmity is not going to be able to pull such a thing off, they don't have enough enmity comparatively to cover the enmity lost from raw power through dot. My Nin, geared as it is, played as I play it, seems to be able to push the hate line far enough in my direction to allow the other DD's to bring up a high DD cap.