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#1 Feb 09 2011 at 3:31 AM Rating: Good
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These are really being a pain for me at the moment. I'm thinking Emperador de Altepa is going to be the best option.

Maybe a MNK, WHM, BLM and 2xBST's? Everyone can use Superior HP atma. double/triple 4K needles can't be stunned, so presumably a nice easy way is just add acouple of bsts to eat it up, especially if they just using HP/PDT atma's to be there to eat dmg.

Any other options for these seals welcome, or advice on quickest way to succeed on the VNM route.
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#2 Feb 09 2011 at 4:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's the annoying way and the tedious way.


The tedious way is to get a t2 pop and when it gets to t3, farm another t2, takes a while sucks, etc.

The annoying way is to at 2-3% have the blm d2 you, so your sh*t can't upgrade then come back to lot seals, easy to make it back wayyy before they auto drop.

Aside from that, easy NM. Pops in the same spot every time (just have to pop before it wonders off somewhere else), 10-15 min timer. Pops slightly north of conflux 1 on the west side of the map, near the (limules?). it will head up the waterfall (usually fight it there so don't aggro at night). If it goes up the waterfall then you'll take a while to find it.

So the key is to kill it once, then make sure you're on it every time it pops till you're done w/ that farming session.
#3 Feb 09 2011 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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What Vegetto explained is pretty much how I did it as well.

When I knew nobody else was camping it, we would do crab dominion ops getting TEs between pops and then be ready for it when it's up. When it was up, we would just wait for it to come up the waterfall where the crabs are and pop it there so we didn't have to jump down the waterfall.

Also, whenever I would first come into the zone and it was up, it would always be at the top NE of the map sometimes in the pots, but mostly in the defenders.

Very easy fight.
#4 Feb 09 2011 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I've got all my body seals (thus far) going the cactuar route. We did NIN WHM BLU BLM+2box'ed WHM and BRD, was pretty stress-free. Everyone crowds around the NM, DD's do their thing, and me and the other WHM just alternated with curaga3/4 spam as timers allow once damage taken rates started accelerating. AoE Stoneskin is nice for some extra damage mitigation if you're not getting hammered too hard.
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#5 Feb 09 2011 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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If you need an extra body to eat up the needle damage, lemme know. I'm usually bored with nothing to do and would gladly help.
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#6 Feb 10 2011 at 2:39 AM Rating: Good
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You should come to my gfs ls Dia, it'd be good to have a friend there, ppl gettin piss with me all the time atm lol. /tell Alondra and say your a friend of mine, shes usually on.



Vegetto - thats a nice method, is there a quick way to get theT2 upgrade? or is it just luck on the kill.



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#7 Feb 10 2011 at 2:45 AM Rating: Good
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Just plain luck.

First one took me 2hrs -.-, then it upgraded on my first Gamayun lol had to go get another.
#8 Feb 10 2011 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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I went with Gamayun as well. The main thing to be aware of on the fight is she can use Aerial Blast as a normal TP move doing over 2K damage to everyone in a large radius. I saw BLMs, BLUs, NINs and probably some others get one-shotted by this move in the process of farming my 10 seals. Otherwise she is fairly easy to tank as MNK/NIN and if your mages keep SS up and WHM keeps baraera up you should be fine.

For an idea of drop rates, here's a record of what dropped on my final farming session of 11 pops in a row (she was being particularly generous with MNK and THF):
1. SMN, BRD, pole
2. BRD x4, earring (grellow, blue)
3. MNK x2, THF, BRD (grellow)
4. MNK x2, THF (grellow)
5. MNK
6. MNK, THF
7. SMN x2, THF (grellow)
8. THF X2, MNK, pole (grellow, blue)
9. THF x2, SMN
10. THF x3, MNK (grellow triggered twice >.<)
11. MNK, THF, BRD, pole (grellow)
#9 Feb 10 2011 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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Emperador tends to be the best in terms of seal drops (We saw 7 in 3 fights). When it gets to low health, it changes over to 4000 Needles and it likes to do it back to back so just be prepared for it. After the first one goes off you can stun the second one with a weaponskill if you are quick enough which helps everyone recover. Also, the damn thing moves at beyond flee speed as we had times when someone pulled hate far away and it ran off and did 2x 4000 needles and killed four pt members.
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#10 Feb 10 2011 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I did Emperador de Altepa for mine and was pretty painless. 12 ppl, like the above poster said, everyone crowd the cactus. proc grellow then zerg on red proc. Whm in each pt spam Curaga 3/4. Pretty easy and it died alot faster than the damn oasis water nm.


On a side note, Alfard was pretty generous with the Cards or Ardor last night and i managed to get all 9 i needed for +2. This one was pretty easy also as long as u tank from directly behind it. Having a 2nd tank that can actually keep up with your level of enmity is very helpful because as mnk tank, you will get hit by Serpentine Tail a time or 2 and if u still have the highest hate level it will spin around and start spamming blast tp moves, then u have to reposition and its just a pain in the ass. But aside from that its really pretty easy!
#11 Feb 13 2011 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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Thx Veggeto, I got the 10 seals from Gamayun, yesterday went 2/9-10 pops, today went 8/9-10 pops.

Was easy makin the pty's for the seals. Went MNM/WHM/BLM/BRD on day 1, went MNK/WHM/BLM/THF today and at least 2 seals dropped everytime even on the couple of occasions we couldn't proc grellow.
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#12 Feb 13 2011 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I just farmed up fanatic powders and trio'd Emperador de Altepa for mine whm mnk blm, just use a powder when he first does a 4k needle. His hp's should be low enough to finish him off easily and if not you can always 2hr it. Not like restore chests are hard to get.

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 6:47am by Kortezpm
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