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#1 Apr 22 2009 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, we've all seen Genome rape stuff with his 75MNK/DNC video on Youtube. My question is, when would that combo be viable for soloing? Wait, even better. At what level can that combo bring in competitive exp?
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#2 Apr 22 2009 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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I'd say at 60MNK/DNC it becomes a good solo combo when you get Curing Waltz 2. It would really start to shine though at 70 when you get Drain Samba II and Healing Waltz.

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#3 Apr 22 2009 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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Ah ok, thanks for the reply. I'm mainly asking because on my server getting parties isn't exactly a cake walk, especially with the level sync system in place. My name starts with R so when people seek those who are looking I'm usually not on the list ;/
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#4 Apr 22 2009 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
It's doable before then, just a bit slower maybe. I solo the DC Taurus in Phomunia Aqueducts all the time as 40 MNK/DNC np.
#5 Apr 22 2009 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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Norellicus is right. Anything that hits really hard each time or has a high double/triple attack rate would be hard to keep up with MNK/DNC. Like I tried to solo the WOTG mission with the slime capsules and the orcish battle machine, bad idea, i couldn't keep myself healed enough to live and kill fast enough to make it through the BC in the 30 min, though part of the might have been my lack of knowledge in the location of the capsules and horrible pulling ability in a cave full of true sight orcs that double attack and hit hard and fast or cast AM...or I might suck.
#6 Apr 22 2009 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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I took MNK from 20 to 75 solo (partied once for like 2K exp before party disbanded) and I used /DNC from level 30 and up. I did however, use my fellowship npc a lot as a healer to help out. With npc, I could handle chaining T mobs no problem most of the time but without npc, I would limit myself to dc-em mobs. Did campaign mainly 60+.
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#7 Apr 22 2009 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Ah, I think my monk is currentl level 22 or 23, I haven't even started with DNC yet. Just trying to get some figures so once I ding DRK to 75 I have a new project. I've just really had it bad the past while leveling with my DRK, no parties etc. I'll be lucky if I can hit 68-75 anytime soon ;/
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#8 Apr 22 2009 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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ziabatsu wrote:
Ok, we've all seen Genome rape stuff with his 75MNK/DNC video on Youtube.

No, we haven't.
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#9 Apr 23 2009 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
And really, we don't need to >_>
#10 Apr 23 2009 at 9:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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/DNC is worthwhile as a solo sub from level 30 onwards.

Cure, endrain, and the eva bonus make DC mobs and below a cakewalk, and the truth is that the way things are balanced now its far more effective to mow down tons of low-level mobs than try to solo EM and above in most cases.
#11 Apr 23 2009 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Use it while skilling guard.


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#12 Apr 23 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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So, my mnk is 74, 2.5k to 75, and so far, I've had three full six-person parties, each one lasting maybe an hour. Almost all my exp has been gained solo or duo as /dnc, plouging through EP-DC mobs using FoV (though I was level 50ish before FoV was introduced, sadly). I've steadily gained 3-4k/hour, 5-6k/hour at low levels, which obviously doesn't compared to a decent party 55+, but it's better than nothing, and I find it more fun than camapign. But up until about level 40ish, I was making better exp than I'd have thought a party could.
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#13 Apr 23 2009 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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ziabatsu wrote:
Ok, we've all seen Genome rape stuff with his 75MNK/DNC video on Youtube. My question is, when would that combo be viable for soloing? Wait, even better. At what level can that combo bring in competitive exp?
I've been using the Valley of Sorrows FoV, while trying to get Adamantoise ToD back. Works pretty well. Made about 20k limit points, aswell as easy recap of exp whenever I die.
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#14 Apr 23 2009 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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I've been using the Valley of Sorrows FoV, while trying to get Adamantoise ToD back. Works pretty well. Made about 20k limit points, aswell as easy recap of exp whenever I die.


dang, i have to find more time to play, that sounds like a load of fun. i used to dualbox/dualnpc farm as mnk/dnc there with my smn/whm walking backpack, i mean mule, sounds like FoV would make that even more fun...
#15 Apr 24 2009 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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When you can equip Faith Baghnahks.

10-15 HP/swing from drain samba adds up pretty fast.
Be warned that Hundred fists with drain samba does NOTHING.
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#16 Apr 24 2009 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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Can you solo Sea Organs as 75MNK/NIN or /DNC? Obviously not UFOs.
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#17 Apr 24 2009 at 2:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can you solo Sea Organs as 75MNK/NIN or /DNC? Obviously not UFOs.


I don't have DNC fully leved as a sub, and therefore haven't played around with MNK/DNC much, but I've farmed in sea on MNK/NIN with little trouble. The area with lower-tier Ul' mobs around the palace entrance is fairly easy for farming; really the only things to beware are linking multiple Aerns and targeting the first Xzomit in the trio (since they'll all link). Ul'Phuabo are DC-T in that area, but with evasion gear, the Om'Phuabo in the NW and NE reaches aren't too difficult, and have a much higher drop rate (and can drop multiple organs). I'd advise bringing plenty of Echo Drops, and possibly saving Dodge in case you need to turn around during their very potent Shock Spikes move.

If you're after Euvhi organs, the Aw'Euvhi in the Garden of Ru'Hmet can be farmed reliably in an evasion setup with MNK/NIN. I've found it safest to save TP and WS when the flower is in open-petal mode, where it has access to more damaging TP moves (most notably Vertical Cleave, which hurts with Counterstance up); this will send it back to closed-petal mode, which is safer. You'll also want to be carrying Echo Drops for these.

Since you brought up UFOs, MNK is a great job for low-manning them. Before I started Salvage, I would take some friends and duo/trio the Ul' and Om' respectively as practice for the chariots, since they have many similarities (charm move, 1K needles move, no strong physical WS). Mainly it's fun to just bring one of those huge things down. =)
#18 Apr 24 2009 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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That's great to hear. Now I just need to figure out an "evasion set".
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#19 Apr 24 2009 at 4:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Running out the door, so please forgive any mistakes; this is what I generally use:

Destroyers (Hades Sainti also good, I don't own a pair)
Fenrir's stone (other options like Smart Grenade and Goblin cracker are fine, I like the eva/HP though)
Optical Hat
Evasion Torque
Brutal Earring
Velocity Earring
Kirin's Osode
Usukane Gote
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Boxer's Mantle
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Byakko's Haidate
Rasetsu Sune-Ate +1 (used Temple Gaiters +1 in the past)

Usukane will hopefully replace some of those pieces, as soon as they drop. =P With this setup, I'm rarely without shadows, and usually only die to an unlucky link/Grah spawn. Also, I use Marinara Pizza for food, perfect for this type of farming.

GOod luck!
#20 Apr 24 2009 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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Rowanbael wrote:
[quote=mazmaz]I don't have DNC fully leved as a sub, and therefore haven't played around with MNK/DNC much, but I've farmed in sea on MNK/NIN with little trouble. The area with lower-tier Ul' mobs around the palace entrance is fairly easy for farming; really the only things to beware are linking multiple Aerns and targeting the first Xzomit in the trio (since they'll all link).

mnk/dnc can kill all three dc Xzomits with ease. Aerns can be a little tougher, but still nothing to worry about until you get to VT range.

As several folks have pointed out here, mnk/dnc is born to rape EMs and below once you have cure 2. Plus... guard skill ups!!!!





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#21 Apr 25 2009 at 4:51 AM Rating: Good
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Can you solo Sea Organs as 75MNK/NIN or /DNC? Obviously not UFOs.
I have soloed many of the EM-T sharks as MNK/DNC quite easily. Goldfish are never a problem. Squids go down well, I just always play it safe and kill the 2 babies first before the mom.

I've fought up to 3 Aerns at once, and lived to brag about it, you just need to be smart about a kill order when links occur. Obviously take out any BLM first, the last thing you want is for them to cast uninterrupted AM or -ga3s. The RNGs are surprisingly accurate, but usually attack a bit slower so I save them for last. The DRGs, SMNs and BSTs can be an issue due to their pets, but I rarely run into these. The most common Aerns up front are BLM, BRD, WHM, RDM, WAR and RNG. I've seen other Aern jobs up front, but these were the most common.
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#22 May 16 2009 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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ziabatsu wrote:
Ok, we've all seen Genome rape stuff with his 75MNK/DNC video on Youtube. My question is, when would that combo be viable for soloing? Wait, even better. At what level can that combo bring in competitive exp?


I'll say this... MNK/DNC is the whole reason I've gotten into MNK lately. With FoV, I've been doing /DNC since level 30.

As for anything above that, I can't contribute too much because my MNK is only level 52. I can however say that it's a lot of fun in FoV.
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#23 May 16 2009 at 4:10 PM Rating: Good
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yeah, the Ul'phuobo's are easily solo'd by /DNC or /NIN, I generally find, anything I can solo T-VT /NIN, I can struggle on /DNC. Once a mob hits so hard that there is little difference between being hit with normal defence, or being hit with 0 defence, /NIN + evasion takes over.

Do ppl use /DNC with CS up for EM-T mobs, Just asking because I don't, but I don't have melee gaiters, nor to I generally want to eat sushi to cap my ACC on somthing im otherwise not acc capped on.
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#24 May 24 2009 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
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with FoV if you do it right mnk/war is a viable solo class lvl 25-50 atleast...i can say so because ive gone 25-50 in a week and a half and joined 2 parties.

i also made pretty good money doing so.
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