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Yeah, I can see that. I am doing that.

One word: Shariah.

To elaborate, as we're planning to marry under Shariah law, and one specific version of it, the marriage will be invalid unless I fit the definition of Muslim as per that version of it. I personally don't agree with that definition, but that's what he's going by so it's an issue.

Oh, but I know the answer. There's girls waiting to get married to him (more or less), he can't keep turning them down for 4 more years and his family won't allow an engagement that's longer than... 3 months or something, probably.

Ugh, my herpes is acting up again.

I wouldn't call that selfless. I'd call it having a backbone and not being a moron.

Theo, I think what you're describing is a part of it, but not that much. As it is, the most important act of worship in daily life for us are the 5 prayers a day. I actually know how much he prays and how much I do - I'm somewhere around 95% plus all missed ones made up, he's at 40% and not making up any prayers. So as far as that goes, my track record is better than his; how much I do stuff that is against Islam is mostly irrelevant because I'm not in denial about it, although there's scriptural evidence that my bad actions will reflect on him and that kinda bothers him. It's not like he's perfect (or even trying to be), either.

The actual issue here is that he's Sunni, and I am as of right now, but I'm very strongly considering going over to Ahmadiyya, actually the main reasons I'm not right now are that I need more time and that they're kind of outlawed in Pakistan. Ahmadis believe that there's another prophet and was preaching 200-something years ago in India. This is in line with one interpretation of the Qur'an, which he thinks is incorrect - it comes down to whether Muhammad was the last prophet or not. So right now he believes that Ahmadis are not Muslims because they reject that one bit of the Qur'an, I believe they are and am very strongly considering becoming one because a lot of their stuff just makes a lot more sense (like, say, human evolution being a thing, or not blowing yourself up under any circumstances).

Also, fun fact: The Qur'an is believed to be unaltered (except some copies in Saudi because their government is corrupt) since it was revealed. There's a whole lot of research into that, but I've not actually seen any proof that it isn't. Everything else is a secondary source, anyway - even the Ahmadiyya scriptures for Ahmadis.
Essentially, there are of course written copies and always have been, but lots and lots of people memorise it, I think there are about half a million who've got all of it memorised correctly right now, which is kind of a good way of preserving it.

Nope, I don't have it backwards.

I don't get it.

How does giving up your beliefs for someone else equate to having a backbone in your book? In my book, also known as the English dictionary, having a backbone means being strong of character, or resolute. Giving up your own beliefs for someone else is not a sign of someone who is strong of character. Pretty much the exact opposite, actually.

I don't get why it's such a problem for him since he doesn't seem to take his religion that seriously himself.



Also, I finished my beerlist. It's still missing some random crap beers I've had that I can't remember the name of and I think I may have forgotten one or two beers but I'm done with thinking about it.
I got to 181 different beers so far. So over the past 2 years I've had about 1 new beer every 4 days.

Don't worry sweety, it's alright. Now you just go back to the kitchen and make me a sandwich, ok?

Oh, good, I was starting to think I completely missed something.



That's what I keep telling people.



You should marry someone you can imagine spending the next many years with. Religious beliefs are part of a person's personality, but only part of it. You shouldn't marry someone for sharing your religious beliefs, or your general beliefs, just as you shouldn't write someone off for having different beliefs.

Basically, if you like the guy and think you'll like him the same, or even more, in 20+ years, go for it. Or you can just go for it, get divorced in a few years after having your first kid with him, and join the rest of the modern world.

As for beliefs, I believe that people are entitled to believe whatever they want. 'People' includes me, however, and other people need to respect that I choose to believe what I want as well. A wise man once told me that an educated person is a person who is tolerant of everything, except intolerance.

Edited, May 14th 2012 12:32am by Mazra

It's called picking and choosing. Like, he insists on having a beard because it's recommended and no sex before marriage because that's not (both of which I think don't really have the right ratio of effort to spiritual reward, but whatever).

The only strict rule I have when it comes to beliefs and relationships, is that I don't @#%^ a guy unless he's pro-choice/believes abortion is an option in case of an unplanned pregnancy. Just to be on the safe side.

Grats, Fish!

You have a really odd logical approach to religion considering how much of an irrational thing religion in and of itself is.

I agree with most of these things. I was (still am) very impressed with the way they do Buddhism in Tibet and I can definitely appreciate their values and the thoughts behind the religion. I just don't believe in their gods.

Congratz! What are you going to be studying?

Oh look, beer list!.

And WTF Japan?

I do. I believe in most religions' gods, in fact. Its the followers and the people who proclaim themselves as heads of the beliefs I don't believe in.

Baha'i


And Æth, I've been with someone who has a very logical approach to it at times for a while now. Except when he doesn't. The thing is, there is a whole lot of scholarly tradition in Islam that's a lot more hardcore than in other religions I've seen. Like, you cannot claim anything if you haven't devoted 15 or so years of your life to the study of it. Or shouldn't, anyway, of course people do. It's 15 semesters in Christianity, last I checked. All this means that if you're talking to a scholar who is actually for real, he/she will have a lot of knowledge, and a lot of it is pretty deeply founded in logic... except where it isn't.

ahhh, that's more comfortable.

Still higher then mine

So Xsarus, tell us the story of your losing and regaining Admin.

Paperwork snafu involving stuff when they were acquired by Tencent. Nothing sinister.

I think your Karma is above 5.0 and admin karma is automatically set to 5.0 because that should be the highest karma one can have.

Ah, paperwork snafus. The most common antagonist to my existence.

Should just peg admin karma at 6.0, problem solved.

Or would druidsock still be the envy?

Also, congrats Fishie, lest I forget.

Going to a party now. This random girl's like... 5th or 6th birthday party, no one really knows, except her parents. My life is awesome, right?

I bought a camera and 2 new pairs of shoes today. also, mosquito spray and underwear.

Hell week for Grease... Three more reherasals until opening.