Brass Rings... Many, Many Brass RingsFollow

Considering I can sell them at a tidy profit I'm pretty sure I'll be making these well into the future regardless of skill ups. I was hoping to make the jump to silver gear in the mid 20s when my mining started producing silver sand more (I'm assuming that I get more from grade 3 nodes). Have you tried to work on anything silver yet?

I haven't tried anything with silver yet (no need to, content with brass for now lol), but as an 18 Miner I don't even have two stacks of silver ore yet. Though most of my Grade 2 mining has been in Thanalan, so that's a good tip to try around the Black Shroud.

Turned 20 yesterday night by making some silver ingot from my nuggets (HQed 1, level is lower than 19 for sure, didn't break any either).
From that I made 2/3 silver gorget. Haven't tried earring or rings (but I'm sure I would fail those miserably)

Brass is still the way to go even at my lvl honestly, just a bit of silver to always have 1 in bazaar.

Your are mistaking brass ringS and brass ring
brass ringS are small rings used to make chain and armor. Brass ring you wear at your finger :)

I made copper rings till level 18. Then start making brass earring until level 22. That is with most less botches/sell profits. Then 22+ for brass ring until who knows. :P Im making 300ish exp on each Brass ring at 22.

Also this guide helps to know where ranks are at around.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/guide/recipe.html?classId=D&rankId=3

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 3:40am by QuentinGriffith

FYI Old Nick get your fact straight about brass ring, its not lower than 20.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 3:42am by QuentinGriffith

ALSO

Silver ore and silver sand can both be made into silver nuggets. I presumed the silver ore recipe would be easier (more crystals, less mats) but tbh they were almost identical. I got the last 1/4 level of R16 with these so I would really not wait until 20. 2nd level guild support at 400G seems worth it on these, and with that I failed 2 or 3 out of about 15 synths. I am planning on doing these until 20 as I don't get significant SP on brass which is annoying. Maybe do brass rings or use up the silver in the mid/late 20s.

Copper rings are indeed a good way to go. realitvly cheap, easy to procure mats (shards is a pain as usual) and npc for a bit more than 500/piece. You may even sell some to players. I can't remember if I could reliably make them at 10 though (more like 12 from memory, but by all means try)
If you have excess bone chips, some more harpoon butt/bone ring is ok too, but again, check the shard requierments.

Is there any spot that I can get some zinc easily ?

and how the hell people are lvl30 yet are they gonna die from staying up for a whole week without sleeping ?

Then you're in for a surprise, even at 29 Brass Ring is more cost efficient compare to Silver Ring, provide that you can do a few Bold to get extra SP every synths.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 8:58am by Khornette

Yeah that was my brain and fingers thinking different things. It was 200 nuggets which is 100 synths to get my level.

Really? Silver is that hard to come by? Damn ._.;

Silver ore/sand is very cheap, because any silver synth costs an atrocious amount of shards, especially wind. By r30 probably I will switch to full Silver Ring, and at R35 Silver Needle/Gem rings as I have seen some 35+ GSM do that.

The weirdest thing is there is no r32 Hammer yet, I think it might be an upgrade from Iron Chaser, either with Dark Silver (Silver + Brimstone) or a Blacksmith + shard like Bas-relief Saw.

Edited, Oct 23rd 2010 3:23am by Khornette

Brass rings seem better at 30 too. I'm tempted to take them all the way to silver needles. That way I can be more efficient with silver nuggets. Fire crystals will be a problem if you're making rings since you will have to use ore as well as sand. I don't know what rank I can make needles but I could still be forced into silver rings for a couple of ranks.

Grade 3 mining gets me a lot of zinc and silver. I may as well put that zinc to use.

One of my LS mates said he gets a decent amount of zinc around Camp Tranquil. I also found some near Camp Drybone, but not as much as him.

Edited, Oct 30th 2010 6:03pm by Maiyah

I'm at 31 but I want to use up these 700 brass nuggets before I move on to silver rings...

Mining zinc is best in Tranquil, just learn your nodes. There's two nodes that give zinc, cycle between those two and one other. When a node collapses go find it again, it will respawn nearby. I got like five stacks of zinc in a few hours last night. Drybone is good for zinc too but not as good, and no silver. But if you can't mine grade 3 it's the place to be.

Edited, Oct 31st 2010 2:04pm by XenorVerdix

No way you are making them that reliably at 16.

Well I'm not in the business of lying lol! I suppose 90% is seen as reliable, depends on your perspective really. I was prepared for the fails and didnt mind paying for the mats so it didnt really matter to me. Tried them at 15 also and that was about 40% success as far as I remember.

I have average-good gear, drink distilled water and have guild gemmery support + high VIT and as I said -no word of a lie - I have around a 90% success rate. (I'm R18 now anyway because at 300-400 sp per synth the ranks didnt take very long). This was all pre-patch by the way - it may have changed since.

With support/food and gear I am managing to standard synth brass ring at 19 without many breaks although for some reason (probably moon and day) I was breaking more than I did at 17! If you use Brass earring as an alternative you can 'standard' them from around 17 with some breaks but not many.

Are there any updates to the lord of the (brass) rings synths? I'm 23 now and have been doing since r16 so getting a little bored. I have found that I have a decent amount of Silver nuggets because I am farming ore's off doblyns (never started mining yet). If I keep doing that for a while I'll have at least four stacks. Is there no alternatives that are viable? Maybe I should wait till after december patch and see if any new recipe's come out.....

Ive been doing silver nuggets, and silver chokers at 19.

I would personally start silver at R26. I can't remember what I did... it was either earrings or rings. Try one of each and see which one you succeed better at. Obviously rings would give you more xp. But yeah, i'd move on to silver.

I'm using the remainder of my brass nuggets off ay r26 (about 1 1/2 stacks) and then moving to silver. Hopefully with support/food etc I'll be able to get 70% success or higher. Only problem is the shard amount but meh I'll just go and farm more :)

Edited Since Update since Brass Rings give alot lower SP now. May not be as effective as listed below.


R30 Goldsmith and still doing Brass Rings. As I am crafting for cost and not for time reduction. Silver Ore is very expensive. 6k Each it seems, till I get a Miner Buddy, or find it cheaper (People in market sell Copper Ore for 500gil, NPC sells for 480 gil, to give you an idea on the Marekt Structure so far)

So for me so far I can make:

Brass Nugget on Average for 12: 2K + shards 2800 = 4800
Brass Ring X 6 Average: Shards $9600 (48 shards over 6 synths) Total: 14400

Silver Nugget on Average for 12: 24k for Ore, 2k for Crystal = 26K
Silver Needle X 12 Average: Shards $38400 + 26k = $64400

6 Silver Needles = $32200 @ 280-340SP
6 Brass Rings = $14400 @ 160-200SP - Double it to get 320-400SP @ $28800
Then add in your failure Rate.

I don't remember how much the Silver Needle NPC's for, but if you can get cheaper Ores and a buyer for the Needles then it's better.
But for the Brass Rings it may take more time but it's easier and cheaper. They also NPC for 1250ish, so 6 ='s 7500gil return.

Edited, Feb 5th 2011 9:13am by SlayerXero

Silver needles npc for around 700gil each, so not quite as much as silver rings or brass rings do/did. I definately would advise going doing the needle route as mat cost ends up being cheaper. I farmed all my own mats starting at copperbell mines camp (quartz dobylns drop silver ore too) and then the BW doblyns. You can get several stacks while you are ranking up a class at these locations so you are not just wasting your time. I have about 6 stacks of silver ore on my retainer at the minute and when I hit 35 I am planning to go the White coral route for a bit so I may not use them all up - it's not a problem though as silver nuggets are used for a lot of repairing.