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I read some stuff earlier and it got me thinking. Well if mixing disciplines of war and magics don't turn out quite right I plan on focusing on large damage 1 target spells. While using some of the Thaumaturge spells that do things like enhance next skills and TP...I decided to quote what a read at Eurozepedia. So if those choices of elements effect what we use I'll go mostly thunder and maybe some ice or wind. I like to have a big bang =P higher numbers in one shot was always my style for caster...which is the opposite for melee combat lol.


"Actions: This area allows you to place the class abilities into your action bar. According to Famitsu, the status (i.e. growth) is split into two parts – “rank” and “physical level.” Rank is associated with the weapon used – so as you gain more experience with a particular weapon, your “rank” with that weapon class increases. As that rank increases, you will learn additional abilities. Notably, once learned, these abilities remain with the character. In other words, skills learned while a Pugilist, may be used while you are a Conjurer. There will be certain restrictions on this, however, and not all abilities will be usable by any class, and there are penalties (strength of the effect and/or time limits) when using an “out-of-class” ability. This leads to a very customizable character development.

Attribute Points: This is the second “leveling” aspect. Physical level is not tied to your rank – so that level increases independently and remains static irrespective of your class. As you gain experience, you are awarded points which you can allocate to various stats (HP, MP, TP, Strength, Vitality, Dexterity, Agility, Intelligence, Mind, Charisma, Luck, Fire, Ice, Wind, Earth, Lightning, Water). So again we see, from the beginning, that customization is king in FFXIV."

it still depends on how ability learning and out of class restrictions turn out for me.

i mean, when you equip a certain weapon class, like a staff, are there different TYPES of staves that have you learn specific spells? or do staves in general make you eventually learn everything staves in general have to offer without your control? because if its the latter, then you pretty much arent able to customize much at all regarding which class you become.
i dont want to be forced to learn water nukes since i despise them.

Edited, Jul 10th 2010 4:15am by pixelpop

Its lucky, in FF people loves healer and are not complaining to them all the time in other games like warhammer or warcraft. I experienced being a healer there, not so good, people tend to accord defeat on the healer like a bad team blame his goalie. But my love in ffxi was to the blm no matter how undermined was that class. Just love those cute looking, yet so evil little guys.

It it helps it doesn't seem far removed from Scholar

if Conjurers works how i think it works
im ganna level a thunder base conjurer & just focus on thunder element skill
while lvling Thaumaturge debuffing skill on the side for the ultimate hybrid plus weavering on the side for the elit equipz

Dang and I thought I was being original...thought everyone would go fire. I liked the Idea of being a "god of storms" like Ramuh =P. Screw it i'm goin Ice based with maybe a little wind.

I'm stuck between this and PUG(I enjoy the hands :P), but if I go for Conjurer I'd probably go for a pure healing route cuz healers are ALWAYS needed. I wouldn't mind keeping it balanced, but I'd only go for that if it wasn't like a SCH minus the Arts effect....ever since I saw that pic w/ the elements around it, I've wanted an elemental to travel with me, but perhaps without the depressing effects of outrageously large perp cost. So I'm not really sure what I want out of it.

Im planning on going down the black magic side of the conjurer. i always had fun leveling my blm in ffxi tho i never made it much past the mid 40s. Rdm was my 1st job i played and also my 1st to 75 with Blu my next to 75. i did alot of manaburn parties with other blms and had alot of fun with that and i always wanted to get my blm to 75 but never found the time to do it. when i first started ffxi i had no idea was the rdms endgame role was, i just liked to use magic and a sword lol, i did have alot of fun doing endgame things with it once i learned what they did, but i regret not leveling blm to 75 b/c i really liked the ancient magic. so ya thats my plan, take up the black magic side of the conjurer. the healing aspect of a rdm was ok but i never subbed whm when i was on my rdm, mainly b/c whm was one of my last jobs to 37 and i didnt much like the spells that had to do with all the -na spells.

Forgive me if this sounds silly, but I haven't seen it answered yet. If I want to start out as a Conjurer, do I HAVE to start in the city of Gridania?

I know the Conjurer Guild is there, but I also would like to be Culinarian, which is in a different city. I'm wondering if it'll make a difference if I don't start in Gridania?

I'm still a little undecided about what type of conjurer I'll be making. In FFXI I took BLM to 75 and WHM to about 46. I really liked both but was more drawn to BLM. In other games I have played healers and DD's and to be completely honest I love both roles. I love putting out tons of damage, and sometimes I love to be the awesome healer that is always needed.

So far my plan is to level evenly for a little and see what the mechanics are like and find out what some more of the abilities will be in the game, once I know more I'll make a decision on how to specialize.

I will be joining you guys and make a Conjurer. I'm new to FF online games but I have played some free MMORPG.

Question, how does loot work?
In many of the free MMORPG games it is sad because supporters need to 'ask' folks if they can have drops. So I always end up being selective who I party with to get items. Not easy especially when healers burn mana pots just to keep everyone alive.

I thought of doing something like Conjurer mixed with Archer type skills. What you guys think?

(I'm new to the game so hopefully I can make some friends when early game day starts :) )

I would just like to focus on nukes, any and all nukes, single target/aoe/dot/all elements, just as long as it blows stuff up ^^

Im just not a healer at heart.

Pretty much everything is speculation on what formula's we'll be using for BLM style Conjurer's late game. A lot will depend on what equipment is available.
Something along the lines of FFXI's Aquilo staff will change what elements people want to sink heavily into.

Anyway, if it's as it sounds it'll be interesting to find the balance between being a powerful nuker for a party and alliance as well as having the tools to (theoretically) solo and low-man low tier endgame mobs, assuming that'll once again be possible.

The customization sounds pretty incredible. Can't wait to see Lalafell BLM squads of varying elements wow the crowd.
Oh, you didn't know?

I wonder... For me it might goes something like... low level -> *cure*cure*cure* mid level -> *cure*cure*nuke!* high level -> strictly nuke or cure! Then again that's how it went in FFXI for me. I do hope I'm able listen to the battle music now...

I plan on leveling CON and THM pretty much concurrently so I can mix and match spells from both disciplines. I imagine in party situations I will probably end up being a healer-con - but soloing I'll have a lot more kiting spells and dmg spells equipped

i have another question on the MP regain.. it seem in beta there alot of downtime cuz of the mp regain since THERE arent none , is it true? if it not i hope they do happend to fix this with item or stats adding faster regain while resting which i hope they do

my 2nd question is which god would you guys follow? since i was thinking of lvling as a thunder focus conjurers will it be best to follow a thurday base god?


reason i choice thunder was because it was the most powerful DD element in FFXI; if i was to lvl a main tank gladitor i would also focus on earth and if i was to lvl a rangerr i would focus on wind

yeah from what I have heard... at the moment it doesn't very fair or balanced with HP regen but no way of restoring MP outside of abilities with a long cool down or walking to a crystal...

I don't casting Cure in combat generates any XP for the caster. Same goes with buffs. I think the only way you can get XP is actually damaging or debuffing the mob.

In all the time I played Conjurer in the beta, I never got skillups for casting Cure. I think I got one for Stoneskin, but it may have just been an illusion.

Also, Final Fantasy players don't take well to their characters being called a "toon." That particular WoW term isn't really cared for around here.

Whoa.. wait.. what? I was excited to play a healer, but you don't get experience *in a group* if you just heal? :(

Can anyone clarify/confirm this? I finally got into OB, but alas, I'm stuck working at the moment and can just badger your others that are playing. ;)

I haven't experienced it myself, but a friend commented on how they were able to get exp with cure in open beta when they couldn't in closed. If I happen to experience this personally I'll post back and confirm.

In closed beta, the healer of the party (At least Conj healing) tended to get far less rewards than those just nuking. I haven't tested much in Open beta, as I finally just got my key activated and working yesterday. I'll do some more testing, but hopefully they fixed it.

The idea of being a healer and getting less exp/conjurer skill is a tad sickening :P

They should just make it so you only get points if you actually heal damage, or something. Perhaps it'd still be exploitable, but it's better than completely negating any skill/exp options.

I was wondering if I can get some help testing if you get less XP when you AoE a few mobs to death at the same time. I think I was seeing a XP hit when smiting 2-3 mobs at the same time.

I can confirm the xp hit here. It seems as if the gamegives you xp based on the damage you did only when it was your main target. Perhaps this is the one drawback to using aoe - since as far as I could tell, there were none.

I would get full xp when my primary target died. Then in one case, the next I targeted only had a sliver of hp - needing only one spirit dart to finish off - and I got a whopping 1 xp.

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 9:01am by Alabazman