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Funny thing is, I think people are just too caught up in consuming end-game content to really give anything some amount of time. They think they've "beaten" the game and moved on, yet don't understand it's more about the journey than the end result.
What is for some, may not be for others. For some there simply is no enjoyment in the journey and they only have fun working in large teams to tackle the hardest content.
1.2 Is going to bring back a fair bit of players. I'm actually willing to bet a few servers will have queue times again, but the bulk of them I doubt will return. I personally know five people I can't convince to return. I guess people are just looking for something new or different to keep their attention.
There was a pretty good post on
Reddit about players leaving these newer games:
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Ye this post is about World of Warcraft, the big boy of MMOs who we just cant get rid of. Anyway Im not writing this to flame WOW players or be irrelevant to SWTOR.
WOW Syndrome has had a profound effect on pretty much any good MMOS ability to stay active for the past few years and its beginning to annoy me.
What is WOW Syndrome I hear you ask in my head?
MMO gamers are by nature mostly monogamous, they may play other games but will always to return to their original favourite. Nowhere is this more prominent then in WoW players, I call it WoW Syndrome and ive silently observed it for over 6 years of MMO gaming.
The reason Im writing about this in a SWTOR subreddit is because it is my strong belief that 90% of all these people giving reason after reason for un-subbing are just WoW syndrome sufferers. I say strong belief... Im 100% sure thats the case, ive witnessed this happen in many games (Age of Conan being the most obvious example).
A game launches with the so called "WoW killer" title, the game has heavy population for the first month or so then WoW Syndrome sets in and the complaints start flying. Im not saying that there were no complaints the first month but they weren't followed by Unsubscribe threats as they all are now.
Case in Point with Age of Conan:
1. Game launches to huge subscription base.
2. A month passes with very little change to population
3. WoW syndrome sets in, the complaints start flying about everything remotely wrong with the game.
4. Players start leaving, their excuses? small bugs, gameplay flaws etc..
5. Server Populations begin to drop
6. Second Wave of Wow syndrome sets in.
7. Server Populations drop further, their excuses? Low populations, cba to reroll etc...
8. Game declared dead by most WoW players.
Age of Conan isnt dead, and by no surprise the majority of people currently playing didn't come from WoW.
We are now seeing similar patterns in SWTOR, but because SWTOR is a stronger game its not happening as quickly. So with that in mind I have some advice for all you WOW players out there who are threatening to unsubscribe or have already done so.
Stop blaming game-play, game mechanics, server population, or god knows what else. All of your reasons are just you trying to convince yourself that you need to go back to WoW. All your doing by complaining is giving other WoW Syndromers justification to complain more. Its only natural you want to return to a game were you are more comfortable, just be honest about it.
Please stop spamming the forums and reddit with reasons why the game isnt good enough for you. Noone cares..
Plain and simple fact: WoW got here first, other games have to struggle to keep up and the main reason is WoW Syndrome. Please just go back to your MMO and stop acting like its anyone else's fault but your own. In a couple months time when you've gotten tired again well be here waiting.
Anyway Id write more but I Feel that this will be downvoted to hell anyway. Please leave comments below, if your going to say something short like "this is bullsh*t" or "I agree", dont bother.
For any mature people our there who want to discuss this it would be nice for WOW players to tag themselves somehow.
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So many People here are just replying with the same things. To all those people who Im going to stop commenting to individually please read this:
1. I am not saying everyone who quits, quits because of WoW syndrome.
2. I am not saying everyone who has ever played WoW has WoW Syndrome.
3. I am not saying that the game has no issues.
Read this: "Most WoW players subconsciously want to return to WoW, they will seek any justification as a means to justify their unsubscribing. This has a overly negative effect on the community where smaller issues are blown out of proportion and players rant about absolutely anything to convince themselves they are justified."
Right.. that is my point.
Please will everyone stop commenting saying why they are not quitting because of this and that, why the game does need help.
I don't agree with everything in it, but I do agree with a lot of it. I know from my personal experience that playing free trials of other games, I was chasing the experience I had in FFXI. I played WoW for a year, and I doubt I'll ever go back to it, but FFXI was my first MMO, and it's always in the back of my mind; it's still the ruler by which I measure my experience in other MMOs.