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Can we get some real questions in here? I know Trolls are gonna Troll but I think this is constructive for all the Alpha Testers that are still coming on these forums looking for someone to break the NDA. Sometimes they can't think of it all and lets face it, probably half of them aren't qualified to be an Alpha tester or are just playing the game to play it anyway. Haha. So lets get some good questions for them to think about, shall we?

Here is my question: In the latest video the person is using the mouse to pick its target. Why is that? Is there a better way of doing it?

Anyone else?

They must all have gotten emails. We can drown our sorrows together

I apologize ahead of time if this has been asked already. I left FFXIV almost a year ago. I remember we had Battle Regiments (Skill Chains), but I'm pretty sure these were removed not long after launch as they wanted to redesign it. I'm curious if Skill Chains and Magic Burst have made it back into the game. O.o

I'm more of the mind to ask how the TP system feels in use, rather than just watching on screen, which doesn't give me a full idea of how they have to balance expense.

Sorry guys, this is discussing the alpha, which you know is against the NDA.

You mean, FTW. Once you're faced with the dilemna of knowing cool stuff but not being allowed to talk about it, you're dealing with esoteric knowledge. "Esoteric knowledge" is such a nifty phrase I'd want to be part of the alpha just so it could apply to me.

Edited, Dec 7th 2012 1:30pm by catwho

Yep sorry, even admitting you're in it is against the NDA, which I quoted elsewhere. Not trying to be a bad guy, just following the rules

Well, I do know this about the Alpha,





and then you can see what Yoshi-P is really going for.

That is the point.

Well, I doubt they have Screen Shots enabled but, that would be easier to show SE a floating glitch or something... However, you can always hit "PrtScn" and save it as a word document, then take it to photoshop and save it as a JPEG.... That's what I do, in FFXIV... in AAR though, I don't know what I do cause I'm not in Alpha yet... but I would do that so I could keep a memory of what I was doing and even to compare to what is finally released.

Which is a good question, say someone does keep video or pictures, can they release them after the release of AAR? Or is that a No No somewhere?

Personally I find it a little hilarious that everyone is so super serial about the NDA, while the NDA is intended to protect the game image... meanwhile, SE releases a gameplay video that very nearly ruins any expectation that the game will be worth playing. At this point, violating the NDA could likely only do more good than harm.

Correct me if I'm wrong Wint but ZAM could face serious repercussions from SE if they allowed the NDA to be broken as I'm sure ZAM is bound by certain NDA restrictions as well.

Actually surprised some of these threads aren't locked outright. I do understand the original intent of this particular thread and don't believe it violates NDA.

For an Alpha I'd look into running the game at minimum settings to see how unplayable the game might be at those settings or how glitchy it becomes. I would also gather as many playerss as I could into one area and have them do as much crafting emoting shouting and what not to check lag issues.

Eh, my post was deleted, i never stated about being in alpha, much less divulge info regarding someone only in the alpha would know. guess thats why i only post on official forums now.

Edited, Dec 9th 2012 1:28am by RippedApart

I've been watching it, any posts that break the NDA go bye-bye.

I doubt FFXIV: ARR will ever be Free-to-Play. In fact a little bird told me that the Alpha is really a lot of fun to play. It looks, feels, and smells nice. All that and its only an Alpha. People have even said 1) It should be a Beta 2) The Alpha is nothing like any Alpha ever done before. Its as if the game is ready now.

That being said, an Alpha that is that good makes me think we are in for a real treat.

Anyone else enjoying the irony in a board dedicated to a game that no one can talk about that launched in 2010? No, I'm not trolling, I just think it's funny.

1) I in no way think that the entire community agrees with me, and I don't appreciate you judging me otherwise. I happily complain about the game because I hope it will be improved upon. And clearly from recent posts, there's a healthy representation of players who do agree with me regarding certain design problems.

2) I'm just discussing my opinions. Analyzing game designs is what I do, both for fun and work. I'm happy to be wrong--it means I learned something new about how games can be successful. Unfortunately, I am very seldom wrong when I predict that a game won't do well. My margin of error leans strongly towards optimism for games when there is room for the benefit of the doubt. That is, however, based on the U.S. market. If JP subscriptions are enough to keep the game afloat, I could be wrong.

3) All of my opinions are based on the assumption that what is being shown is what we're getting. I tend to be pretty good at extrapolating what isn't shown. But maybe SE has a rabbit hiding in their hat. Considering that's never been the case in my memory, I'm not optimistic about that.

For me, the bottom line is that whether you agree with my opinions or not, and whether you like what I have to say or not, I have done nothing to warrant the disrespect of being called arrogant, or a troll. If you have a substantive counterpoint to make, then as is clear to anyone with eyes, I am all too happy to offer my agreement or disagreement. If you're just going to engage in ad hominem, then I'm afraid all I have to offer is a hardy "@#%^ you."

I don't particularly care if you agree with me, but I will try to be respectful towards you until you no longer extend me the same courtesy. At which point, I assure you that you will find me far less likeable than someone who is merely confident, opinionated, and not particularly optimistic about FFXIV:ARR. So if you were looking for someone to be a rude dick to you on the internet, you're in luck. Just step over the freshly painted line, and you'll get exactly what you want.

Or we can go back to having a civil discussion about FFXIV, and dismiss this as an unfortunate but irregular transgression. I'm equally cool either way.

Edited, Dec 10th 2012 5:36am by Kachi

Not true, he likes the graphics

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=13547827012418199#5

Edit:

That being said, I'm with WFO here in that you do seem very negative towards the game, and you have no idea how it actually plays (unless you're in the alpha) and really even then that's not a fair assessment because I expect there will be quite a few changes between now and launch.

Edited, Dec 10th 2012 8:15am by Wint

I do remember you saying that you are "critical of the game because you want it to succeed." I will also read some more of your other posts and get my absolute view of you...

I watched your link and it seems like those reviewers have a good base of knowledge to compare the game. It shows that there is a lot of influence of other games in FFXIV:ARR. Yoshi-P said as much anyway. He, Yoshi, is a MMORPG player and clearly has a good vision of what they should play like, in this age anyway. That being said, ARR does flow like some of the other games but its still has a Final Fantasy feel to it and I think that is what SE and Yoshi is trying to go for. Give people a modern MMO but retain or create the Final Fantasy universe around it. Add in the fact that you have FFXI players, other MMO players, and new players trying to get into the remastered FFXIV and you have a large spectrum of things to cover. Then you have to keep them coming back and to get them to join in the first place.

SE and Yoshi=P have the dreadful task of transferring what works, fix what doesn't, and add new innovative content to the existing MMORPG model and make it work with a Final Fantasy sticker on top. FFXIV: 1.0 was something different all together. I think Yoshi said it best when he said the old staff and SE were cocky about the series and thought it would work or fix itself. It didn't even have some of the fundamental elements of a modern MMORPG which was a horrible move. Add in the sub-par Alpha/Beta testing and you wonder what they were even thinking for releasing the game. Fast forward 1yr, add Yoshi, and a supportive fan base, and you have ARR.

I'm not sure if you, Kachi, are in the Alpha but judging the new game on a few videos, "professional" reviews of the same videos. and thousands of random user comments, is not a good way to base an opinion. I think you should add constructive criticism, just like everyone else, but don't hate until you try it. In my expert "eyes on" the matter the videos we have seen are nothing more than a "sorry you didn't make the Alpha, here is something to look at while you wait." There is so much more to the game than what we know about and its only the Alpha. Sure there are crazy UI stuff, strange combat systems, but its the Alpha. I'm 100% sure they can't/don't want to show even the Alpha people how all that stuff is really supposed to work.

The Beta will be a true testament of what they game will look like. Graphically, I'm sure we are close. UI, Battle, Character Animations, etc. I am willing to bet they are Alpha bonuses so SE can test the system while doing these things, its not the REAL system, yet. I really do wish I could tell you I'm in the Alpah, tell you the forums are filled with comments about the game (bugs, glitches, to UI and battle), and I REALLY wish I could tell you that the admins are responding to a large amount of issues by saying they are looking into it, that its on the to-do list, or that its a place holder until a later time. BUT I CAN'T SAY these thing because I'm not in the Alpha and if I was I can't break the NDA because Wint will nuke me AND I also don't want to get dropped from the it or ruin my chances of getting into the PS3 Beta.




Edited, Dec 10th 2012 2:32pm by WFOAssassin

Yeah Beta testers were not allowed access to the forums for giving feedback. One of our forums here was monitored by developers, but if anything came of that I wouldn't know.

Well, it was true of the alpha, and that was more or less my point.