will everyone start fresh with 2.0 ( a FF reborn )Follow

Nope. And if they did say they would wipe all the progress, I wouldn't play.

But Yoshi has said that there wouldn't be any character wiping. However, they have said that will open up fresh servers for people who want the starting-anew experience.

Most likely, I will create a completely new character for 2.0 and start over. I played beta, and then 1.x off and on as the urge hit me. With the release of 2.0, I want to start fresh as if this is a whole new game.

From the screenshots and video, it looks pretty sweet - I am stoked.

Going to do the same as Hyrist. I've been waiting a long time to try a male mi'qote, so that's likely going to be my "fresh" character at 2.0 relaunch.

In the meantime, I'm working slowly on getting most crafts at 40+ and all combat jobs at 50 on Cloe.

Who's going to be my "main" character once the dust settles is something only time can tell.

i almost forgot to add the economic problems the game was/is facing a lot of players are like multimillionaires and economy its all messed up this is another thing that can not be ignored.

i can safely say at least on my server but i am positive its similar elsewhere that over 50% player base has almost all class capped if 2.0 opens up they will plow through everything etc. The worst part is a lot of the player base has abused the powerleveling/bugs/glitches over the 2 years the game has been out and not addressing this will create a lot of problems for people. In all honesty the game pacing was fine i even said to myself it was a bit too easy, but as soon as xp chaining and powerleveling was opened to abuse it killed the entire game for me personally.

They should just release game fresh and give some kind of rewards for all the hard work people put into the game so they won't be mad. At the very least the crafting and gathering but not the jobs/classes.

I played specifically knowing that it wouldn't be wiped. During the Beta, I knew my char would be wiped so I only lvled to 10 then explored. I'm seeing in your sig you have a lvl 11 and a lvl 3. It was your choice not to play. I suffered through it. (literally... I had to take 2 month breaks because it was bad)
I keep hearing this lvling too fast thing. My char was the first GLA to 50 on the server so I know how bleak that random exp was. Then came the easier lvling AKA Coblyns, leve spam, and now the current system. It was my choice to lvl up during random exp to get there first so I have no right to complain that people came at just the right time when it was easy.
You're acting like they won't have new jobs in the future. I am looking forward to the lvling to cap experience on some new jobs then. When it launches, I can explore!!!! When I started FFXI on the launch of ps2's version I saw how some people who were playing longer, who had a head start AKA the JP and PC players, had a vast financial advantage. This time, the game was released world wide to all (or most). Like I said, you didn't take the chance because the game was pretty bad, that's fine. Punishing the players that supported the game? No bueno!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but they won't wipe any current characters. There will be fresh new servers, enjoy them at your own discretion. The current servers will be as is, and there will be an influx of people onto them as well since the economy is not "broken" but rather "established". Please come back at launch and report back to me how the crafters will be exploiting you on fresh new servers, simply because there are only like 5 guys at cap making all the items for the entire server :) like v1.0 launch.

You keep mentioning/implying that people used bugs/cheats to get to where they are?

Only three come to mind:
1/ RMT spam Godwin Goodgoat. This does need to be fixed, but that doesn't justify wiping everyone clean.
2/ The infamous BLM burn Garuda. That was an oversight from the Development Team.
3/ Abandoning leves back in 2011. This too was fixed and changed to discourage players from this.

Powerleveling isn't broken, or as broken as you keep making it out to be. You can get a similar pace by having rested EXP and doing leves.

I hear this often, but I'm not putting two and two together I guess. How exactly does another player leveling their character up quickly have an impact on the game for you?

All jobs are viable? When did that happen?

Seriously though, I never came across that in XI and you could literally cap all 20 jobs in a month if you had to. Kinda unreasonable to expect someone to have all jobs leveled up and geared and I wouldn't expect that if people started fresh, but maybe the community has changed. Maybe it's just another downfall of multi-class character games.

First:

Powerleveling is not a standard. It's not even common practice in the game. A new player enters and most people encourage them to level normally. My last bit of game-play was in an EXP party in my mid 30s.

Second. The jobs all have moments they shine, and standing next to one another, they're very balanced, performance wise. Added with the idea that speed-running will no longer effect loot drops in dungeon raids, and the new limit system they've introduced, and jobs are going to be fairly exchangeable for their roles. I'm a little concerned on how the new combat system will effect the balance of the jobs.

Was there anything specific as far as balancing that you were concerned about, Nasty?

I have to admit, I am loving the PL arguement. That was a fad before people even realized it, and passed even more quickly.

The only people who are going to PL are the same people who find ways to get max level in everything, and lets be honest (especially on the new servers), they are a) going to be WAY under-geared (you can't PL a crafter or gatherer), b) groups who party level will do the same thing with regular parties, c) They still have to level their first classes the traditional way, d) They need to complete their Job quests, Grand Company Quests, e) They will not have access to the Faction Gear (and pre-craft, Pre-AF, Pre-Dungeon, this is the best gear you can get, and it is far easier to get than: Crafted, Dungeon, and AF, and obtainable 10 levels earlier, and is usable by more classes/Jobs).

And there are many other little bits that make the whole Power-Leveling on the new server strictly for the over-leveling End-Game only people. And literally, the only thing that would change (if leveling wasn't just as easy and far less boring) would be that it would slow them down, but they would still out-pace anyone who actually cared about playing through the game.

Anyways, yeah, I already started a new character on the same server, just to play with it (and in 1 month, I didn't get high enough to get my goobue horn on it... so it's questing for Choco for me:P). And I will probably start a character on a new server just to see what the world is like.

Needless to say, there is now enough in the game that at any level I have been able to stay far more busy than I have time for, and there is still stuff I haven't gotten done (I still need a CC win, and a Garuda win, and 1 more Gold Key NM for sure)...

It really is impressive, at this point how different the game really is. If it wasn't for all the glaring problems still in the client (random crashes, load issues, the Retainer system), it would actually be an impressive game in it's current state. With that said, I have grown attached to my character, and while I will miss it when the servers go down, I think I will skip out on the private beta, and maybe come back for a peak in the public beta, but really hold off for the release, so I can start redoing the storyline quests, and explore the new world (one of my first goals is always explore everywhere first).

I'm a little confused here. Why exactly is it a good idea to wipe the progress on characters that some people have spent almost two years leveling? Because your not one of the players that have been working at it that long? So instead of building yourself up your solution is to rip everyone down to your level?

These argumetns would be valid only if:

A, it wasn't craptasticly easy to gain levels. And B

B, It isn't craptasticly easy to gain gil.


Having large amounts of gil at launch means absolutely nothing to an economy that showers it at you. Are you afraid that some rare piece of equipment will be unobtainable? Then do the event in which it drops. Can't find a group? Use Group finder.

The systems that area already in place in this game sort of gut people's concerns right off the bat when it comes to "Omg it's so unfair that other people have done things before me!"

This isn't a game that supports exclusivity to only a select few, and the systems that did that in the previous version (such as speed runs) are going away. There would have to be some pretty extreme changes to the economy for you to be concerned by a few gil hoarders.

I'd say give it a shot. You get one character on every server even with the most basic subscription. If it's not to your liking, you can reroll elsewhere without even losing the character you have on that server. The fact of the matter is, you have your options in front of you. There will be 'fresh start' servers just like your requests, and there will be servers that support the continuity of the Meteor Survivors. No shame or harm in trying both or, from SE's perspective, supporting both.

Edited, Aug 16th 2012 5:00pm by Hyrist

It's my opinion that it's quite nice to have the option for both, really.

I'll probably role a brand new character on a fresh server too to get a feel for how it will be like to start completely fresh.

Not sure what I'll be rolling, however. Any suggestions?

Assuming you had one job at level 30 to be able to start getting stones built up, you could advance the rest of the jobs from level 1 to cap in around a month.

1-10 takes a few hours at most. 10-30 takes a few more hours than the first few. About 10 solid days of prep getting those other 19 jobs to level 30 and the rest is auto-pilot.The conquest and cruor you gain would easily cover your costs, the bulk of your time would be spent logged in but afk and if the stars alligned (conquest bonus, super kupowers, ect.) you could probably do it in less time.

*EDIT* Meth is optional

Edited, Aug 17th 2012 12:06am by FilthMcNasty

You mean... new servers would threaten us with exploration, uncertainty and, most of all, adventure?
Heavens forfend! When all I want is to follow around nobility.

I created Broken Fox on day 1 and I'll be sticking with him in 2.0.

There was mention of a reward system for players going and helping one another, even on content they have already completed, so the issue of unbalanced level distribution and finding groups may in fact be somewhat muted.

Something to keep an eye out for, if it may effect your decision on where you roll your primary character.

Although, again, paying for one character is paying for one character on every server. So a direct comparison can be made.

That, I doubt.

Me too :D

I don't mind starting over really. I really enjoy questing and crafting so its fine with me. I'm also glad there's a new server coming. This will be great for players returning to the game and starting fresh.

I don't understand why people complain so much about the economy, when actually the economy was worst when everyone start from 0. For those that quite the game early, you did not see how crystals were 10k each early on the game, how a champion lance was 5 mil, how whatever new item SE put in the game there was someone ready to spam for it and sale it for a outrageous price just because he/she was the first.

There will be players that knows where the Gil is and will take advantage of it and be the first ones to create the items or provided the mats and complete overcharge for it. The new servers for 2.0 will see a lot of overprice mats and gear as people level up early on the game. With the current servers that already is done, the items have a balance price for low level gear and items. While the new servers will have the nice up and down according to who can provided the items first.

Those current billionaires knows the low level gear will not provided more millions, so the new crafters will have a more easy time finding mats to create the gear for sale at a lot more cheap price than the new servers.

Yes I'll start afresh. I only got to about level 32 anyway.

I'm looking for a new game experience so I want to start from the beginning.

Hello everyone! It's been a while since the last time I dropped by the ZAM FFXIV forums. I'm looking forward in seeing what the finalized FFR will bring to our gaming community. I for one will start on a fresh server so I can leave all my bad memories behind. I'm a little surprised that there isn't going to be a complete wipe and let players keep their character names and some other incentives.

I just picked up the game and am very looking forward to 2.0

That been said everyone should play where they feel happy and will enjoy their game experience, be it new or old server.

I will more than likely restart new simply because of no matter how older players got rich, sadly there will be those few that ruin it for the majority that arent ah's. You know the few who will go around buying all the lower lvl gear and selling it at insane prices, which will be bought by players who have millions. To avoid all this I will simply start new.

That been said:

"LF LS starting < new server name > 2.0!!!!" :P