Adoulhin And the PS3 (was forum=29)Follow

will we be able to play the ps2 version on our ps3 with seekers of adoulihn , may sound ackward , but in the video it's xbox360 and pc only

Edited, Sep 11th 2012 11:41am by Wint Lock Thread: Yeah this isn't going anywhere, shutting it down.

You going to ask this same "can ffxi be played on ps3" in every FFXI section of the forums?

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

So the long and short answer is no.

Actually I'm going to go out on a limb here and say not possible in this case.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/24596-FINAL-FANTASY-XI%C2%AE-Seekers-of-Adoulin?p=330245&viewfull=1#post330245



Sorry

Never gonna happen Tiger.

I listed the reasons why SE has stated they can't do PS3 the thread you put in feedback, so instead I'll go with the reasons they're ignoring the NA PS2 players for now.

1. There aren't that many of them left. FFXI runs on any computer you can buy off the shelf today, most PS2s have trouble communicating with the latest and greatest televisions (my 40" Samsung TV tells the PS2 "I'm sorry I don't speak the olde tongue" and then merrily ignores it), and while the PS2s themselves are still alive and kicking, making XBox and PS3 sort of look ashamed by their rings of death within 6 months of use, the hard drives for them are in short supply and will eventually fail. And there aren't easily found replacements.

2. SE will not get any new players on PS2 in either country. Fat PS2s are no longer manufactured and are virtually impossible to find brand new. And good luck getting a copy of FFXI for PS2 for less than $400.

3. I believe around 2% of NA users were on PS2 at last survey, while closer to 20% of JP players are still using it. It's frankly not worth the dev costs to translate the game for 1000 people, although it's worth it to develop it in your native language for 10,000 people.

4. Many PS2 users do have other means of playing the game, they just prefer their comfortable old consoles to their laptops. This may be SE's attempt to start prying the PS2 user base away from their obsolete hardware and toward more modern stuff.

5. PS2 is obsolete. Obsolete. Obsolete. The only reason they're even bothering with it in Japan is because Sony hasn't officially ended support for the PS2. As soon as Sony gives a cut off deadline (say, 2015 or whatever), SE will likely jump on the opportunity to end support for the game on PS2 in Japan as well.

I should dig around and find them ps2 disks. Seems there could be money made, before it is too late

tolerate?
We get it, you <3 you ps2 and ps3. But old hardware is old. Just because you and maybe 1000 other people, in the NA, refuse to upgrade isn't going to make SE care.

Oh, and how you can say 12 was better then 11, yea I don't know. I only played that game once, and thought there was some kind of mid-game-credits going on, to find out I was at the end...
Actually this entire post is orz style.

sounds like ... true ? who knows.... worth it ? i think so tho

Edited, Aug 31st 2012 10:44pm by RedTigerOfficial

I had pong built into the massive 25" television I used for gaming when I was a kid in the 80s. That TV worked great until a black hole began to form in the upper right corner, and eventually Legend of Zelda became unplayable because I couldn't see how many hearts I had left.

Long story short, it would cost SE more to port the expansion to the english ps2 client version than they would make back from selling it to the NA ps2 players, DL content or not. PS2 doesn't exactly make up a huge portion of the english players (I don't think an EU ps2 version was even released), and while many of the ps2 players would probably buy the expansion initially at the $50 it'll start at, many more will simply wait for it to go down in price, because if they're too cheap to buy a lousy pc that can play FFXI better and rig it to use their TV as a monitor and use a ps2 controller adapter or a simple usb controller, they're too cheap to pay full price for Adoulin.


Er... Xbox was more than a year after that, you know... xbox's official release went live with ToAU's release. PC and ps2 had already been out for a couple of years (I started on the tail end of 2004 on ps2, and hit 75 about a year and a half later when ToAU came out, which is why I remember it clearly)

A quick search and i found a ps2 + 10 games for 10$, and since it's all just a hassle to buy just for playing on an old ass system, I'd doubt anyone would even buy it.


Also, that's what I got the newest collection for on Steam so yea... The price of nostalgia, shortly followed by regret?

Just to poor salt in his wounds, I picked up Vanadiel Collection 2 for PS2 down at my local Geo Geo (game/video shop) for 3900yen. They had several on the shelf. These weren't used copies, new ones no one had bought. Plays just fine on my PS3, though you do have to download their PS2 emulator software first. As Cat said, the graphics look like complete shnitlze on my TV. It's almost 8-bit looking the pixals are so big and jagged. No amount of messing with the settings on either the PS3/TV/Game would make it somewhat playable.

It did feel like 2002 for me doing the first time setup again, that warm fuzzy you got the first time you started.

It's not just you.

Xbox 360's refurbished can be bought for a decent price at gamestop.

That Xbox 360 is a viable option. I've never owned an Xbox, but I imagine it's much easier to set up than a PC/laptop. That might appeal to some people.

They couldn't release FFXI in EU because there was no PS2 HD over here.

I would think any PC/laptop from any wal-mart could play FFXI :D

Well, at least Seekers of Adoulin is getting a PS2 release in Japan. If they can keep it up for 1 more expansion (since SoA would be coming out at around the 13 year mark for the PS2), they can break the record set by the Neo Geo, which saw new releases for 14 years. I hope support in Japan for FFXI on PS2 keeps up & Sony official support for PS2 keeps up just long enough for that to happen.


Yeah, it was quite obvious SoA would not of seen a PS2 release.
1.) Too few NA PS2 FFXI players left. When a user base becomes small enough, it's not sustainable to release new games for it. I can understand an argument against this point though given the costs of FFXIV and its user base bottoming out at around 12,000 (more than half of which were Japanese players).

It reminds me of why the upper deck of the Oakland Coliseum (AKA Mount Davis), where the Oakland A's play, was tarped off. For the number of tickets sold for up there and the price of the tickets, it literally didn't cover the salary of the vendors who covered that deck and the electricity for the halls going up there. Also, the Neo Geo could see games come out in the US this late with production runs of 300-500 because at that size, it wasn't unprofitable (not that much money would be made off it relative to a big release on another console) and the company (SNK and its zombie/resurrection Playmore/SNK-Playmore) made the vast majority of its money off the arcade releases. The home console was a secondary market to them; the arcades were their primary venue. ... And the games sold way more in Japan (one, KOF2001 or 2002?, sold over 6000 copies in its 1st week. Granted, that's most of its total sales, still, for a new game coming out on a 12 year old console, even making a weekly sales chart in Japan is impressive). I bring up the Neo Geo because new releases for the PS2 are in Neo Geo territory right now.

2.) HDD hard to come by because Sony stopped selling it in late '04 or '05 (I forget ATM). It was a very small sales window in terms of product support. Not Virtual Boy short or 32X short, but short nonetheless.

3.) HDD only compatible with PS2 fats, which were discontinued and succeeded with PS2 slims. They can be found, but only used (unless you get really lucky, like finding $5000 in a cart of the NES game Golf lucky). Making a new release for a (version of a) console you can only get secondhand is not something many companies do. That's in homebrew territory.

4.) Only PS3 fats are backwards compatible and they were also discontinued, what, around 2008? Is the OP noticing how many conditions there are on playing FFXI on PS2 now? (yes, I agree with the counterpoint, it's still easier to play FFXI on PS2 in NA than it is getting all the factors lined up for a good Evolith on the piece of gear you want it to... but it's close! And while closeness only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, FFXI has Grenades, so closeness counts here).

5.) Has the OP actually looked for FFXI discs on the PS2 for later expansions or later bundles like the Vana'diel Collection? They became very hard to find and were only available within a few months of release. WotG people said they had a really hard time finding PS2 discs for and even ToAU gave people some trouble. Only CoP gave people no trouble (PS2 that is, PC had some trouble... trouble by the name of Ivan!).

On that subject, does anyone know how many copies were sold (or even made) of ToAU, WotG, and the Vana'diel Collections for the PS2? That would really say what the NA PS2 FFXI market was a few-several years ago, and it would have only gotten smaller since then. I'd be curious to know how rare they are compared to other famously rare games.