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#1 May 08 2012 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
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After watching a tarutaru sash with TH+1 get snatched up a second before i could grab it in a worm party yesterday, i have been wondering what the best way to go about soloing gold boxes in la-theine would be, hoping to get the fast cast neck and TH waist.

I have three jobs which i could do it on, PUP, SCH, and DNC, all three are fully merited, and my pup and sch so far have fairly good gear with my dnc using mostly pink.

My question is which would be the best for getting augmented items from gold chests in la theine, My pup is by far my best damage dealer, but he gains ruby waay too fast for that to be effective (are there mobs in la theine that i could farm that dont give ruby, after i have capped amber?

With sch i would be able to build azure fairly easily, could also use aoelian edge for amber (havn't capped staff yet), and i read that kaustra gives pearl, (do helices give pearl as well?) I am also wondering if i kill a mob with an immanence sc what light would that give off? So with sch i could build amber/azure, and then find a nuke that drops a mob to a few percent hp and finish it with a helix, or i could take them out with a sc.

Third option is bring my dnc and just aoe spam aoelian edge not worrying about any of the other lights.

What would you guys suggest?

Also any strategies on farming lights for augments in la theine specifically would be much appreciated, ^.~

Thanks, Fantus
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#2 May 08 2012 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've seen a SCH mass farm mobs in Abyssea with Kaustra. SCH would have an easy time building Azure and even Pearl (I've read that DoT kills from stuff like Kaustra give Pearl). But SCH isn't the easiest job to build Amber and Ruby. I suppose you could set up a melee atma set to build up to 40 or so Ruby and then switch to atmas so you can mass kill mobs with Kaustra. Red chests would eventually help build up the Amber that you need. You probably won't be in danger of timing out. But it could take a long time just to get up to sufficient amber.

I don't know how comparable the kill speed would be for DNC if you relied on Aeolian Edge. DNC would certainly make it easier to build Amber and some starting Ruby. But then you're relying on red chests to build Azure. You might be able to convince a soloing mage to team up early on to build lights for one another (help him build pearl while he helps you build azure).
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#3 May 08 2012 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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I did all my gold box farming on BLU. It's able to do all the required lights on it's own quite reliably.
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#4 May 08 2012 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
I would suggest sch. To build pearl, pop the tier 1 vnm, nuke it to almost dead, then beat it with your staff until it dies. You will get your pearls built up np this way. Then switch to amber farming. It is a little more difficult without Cata ... pop the tier 1 vnm (or grab the orange limules) nuke them down to 1% life, then use rock crusher to finish them off. It's a low enough level ws, that you should have it np. You can boost your dmg with atmas and get regain to help build tp faster.

Once you are done with those, bring up your azure to whatever levels you want and then go to town!

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I did all my gold box farming on BLU. It's able to do all the required lights on it's own quite reliably.

BLU was not one of the options.

Edited, May 8th 2012 12:03pm by Elspetta
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#5 May 08 2012 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh, sorry I didn't read the OP. Just answered the question based on the name of the thread.
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#6 May 08 2012 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fantus wrote:
I have three jobs which i could do it on, PUP, SCH, and DNC


Don't forget that PUP can use Aeolian Edge if you use the right subjob, including /NIN, /DNC, /THF. You're still going to kill fairly quickly too on La Theine trash mobs. Oynos Knife and augmented Yataghan are a couple of solid DD options that PUP can equip.

Can get pearl quickly through melee, azure through automaton nukes, and switch to dagger for amber with AE. To avoid ruby, just hold back and don't use your best H2H WS. And use a mage puppet instead of Sharpshot/Valoredge, or they'll all too happily ruby your mobs unless you're really careful.
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#7 May 08 2012 at 2:53 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, thanks for the ideas so far,

So i am wanting to definitely cap amber/pearl, and get azure higher than 128 but not cap it?

I went for a trial run just to see how sch was doing and got amber to 150 without too much trouble than tried to kaustra down 15 frogs and ate it pretty hard,. Using VV/Apoc/MM, along with adloquium and gaining TP every nuke i was able to nuke them down to low hp fairly easily and then i normally had tp for an AE ready to go. Going to try pup next and see how much faster and easier the going is. Wish me luck!

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Frogs take half magic damage for some reason. (Why do BLM's have MDB? Who knows, must just be a species thing) I'd do something else if you're using kaustra. Probably bees or rabbits, just avoid pulling the NM's. Frogs are more of a whirl of rage/fell cleave kinda thing.

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#9 May 08 2012 at 10:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fantus wrote:
So i am wanting to definitely cap amber/pearl, and get azure higher than 128 but not cap it?

That depends on your kill speed. If you can kill mobs fast enough in big groups, you can cap out everything and still be ok.
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#10 May 09 2012 at 4:33 AM Rating: Good
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svlyons wrote:

I don't know how comparable the kill speed would be for DNC if you relied on Aeolian Edge. DNC would certainly make it easier to build Amber and some starting Ruby. But then you're relying on red chests to build Azure. You might be able to convince a soloing mage to team up early on to build lights for one another (help him build pearl while he helps you build azure).

I've done solo gold box farming on thf, similar to dnc. The way to build azure is with /nin and use elemental ninjitsu. Most non ninjas forget those spells even exist! While building amber with Aeolean Edge, you can tweak your atma with Atma of Gales and Smiting Blow to get max AE damage.
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If you want the TH sash just be aware the drop rate is pitiful, like .1% out of the gold boxes, I had some friends farm up a few of them it took them months of 8 hr+ days doing it (couple times per week). I helped some and just leached levels a lot. They took a few of my jobs to 99 that way.
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#12 May 09 2012 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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Lokithor wrote:
svlyons wrote:

I don't know how comparable the kill speed would be for DNC if you relied on Aeolian Edge. DNC would certainly make it easier to build Amber and some starting Ruby. But then you're relying on red chests to build Azure. You might be able to convince a soloing mage to team up early on to build lights for one another (help him build pearl while he helps you build azure).

I've done solo gold box farming on thf, similar to dnc. The way to build azure is with /nin and use elemental ninjitsu. Most non ninjas forget those spells even exist!

I've tried using elemental ninjutsu as BST/NIN to get azure. The spells were doing pitifully little damage, and I didn't feel like I could rely on them to even get kill shots. Perhaps it was my atma setup though. Maybe I would have had better results if I had used Beyond and Ultimate (I don't think I had Ultimate at the time though).
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BrimstoneFox wrote:
If you want the TH sash just be aware the drop rate is pitiful, like .1% out of the gold boxes, I had some friends farm up a few of them it took them months of 8 hr+ days doing it (couple times per week). I helped some and just leached levels a lot. They took a few of my jobs to 99 that way.


Yea, i know. That's one reason i got really annoyed when i was 2 seconds too late in getting one from a gold pyxis, i swear in worm parties everytime there is a chest 4-5 people rush it, which is why i want to figure out how to solo them.

I'm also farming for the Fast Cast neck which makes it much more worthwhile, having two items i am going for will help keep my motivation up with my normal crappy luck. I figure if i am willing to spend a million gil for 2 fast cast (prolix ring), i might as well try and get 3, with the added incentive of a TH waist that i can use on pup to farm dynamis, 8')

I tried out pup last night and made the mistake of capping amber first then worked on azure and timed out before i could get any stone fragment. With only 10 minutes left i found out i can have my pet azure nuke down the clionids in the worm camp for quite a bit of azure, so next time ill probably kill worms for pearl/amber grabbing azure everytime the clionid pops.

I put on the inhibitor using the tank pet to avoid ruby but he still got a couple shield bash kills >.>, only way i can think of avoiding ruby completely is using the whm or rdm pet which will slow down kills considerably but keep my ruby free.

2 quick questions, what is the trashiest/easiest mob i can burn down the quickest in la theine once i cap lights? Worms work well but then i have to compete for them. Second question, do frogs give pearl? I swear i was mowing those guys down trying to get pearl and wasnt seeing it go up at all, o.O

Thanks, Fantus


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#14 May 09 2012 at 12:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fantus wrote:
I put on the inhibitor using the tank pet to avoid ruby but he still got a couple shield bash kills >.>, only way i can think of avoiding ruby completely is using the whm or rdm pet which will slow down kills considerably but keep my ruby free.

Don't stress yourself out trying to stay at 0 Ruby. A little Ruby might even help you build some of your other lights.
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#15 May 09 2012 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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The alternative is that you can join a regular party that's on worms or frogs, build up your azure/pearl while just "meriting", and then leave the party to finish your amber (or even build amber while in the party). That would work for DNC or PUP.

By the time your lights are high/capped you'll probably also have a big chunk of time banked and can then go farm other mobs at your leisure.
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I put on the inhibitor using the tank pet to avoid ruby but he still got a couple shield bash kills >.>, only way i can think of avoiding ruby completely is using the whm or rdm pet which will slow down kills considerably but keep my ruby free.


PUP really isn't a good job for Abyssea if you're trying to avoid ruby. It pretty much forbids you from using the melee or ranged puppets unless you target mobs that don't give ruby. Outside of Tahrongi, they're few and far between, and most zones don't even have any.
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