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#1 Apr 14 2012 at 11:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't done FoV or GoV other than solo or duo with someone roughly same level (NPC xping mainly or brown chest random head bashing). So my question, is it possible to duo with a lv1 charactor while I do the higher pages and the lv1 get the bonus XP after finishing the page? I read up on the wiki but it just says need to be in range of the kill to earn credit. I tried it out on an alt earlier (lv1) and wasn't receiving credit for the kills. I am assuming that the ol' "must be able to receive xp from the kill" applies then.

I've seen folks in Zer. Mines doing the same thing, but not sure if those /anons are extremely low level or in their 60/70's since they still wearing lv1 starter gear.

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#2 Apr 15 2012 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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Had this happen in mines while trying to level some jobs on an alt, then a buddy found that if he went outside town and got level 8 (I think it was), he started getting exp per kill from the higher level mobs, and the full experience per completion. So it works, just not at level 1 (not sure what exact level is, but 8 took all of 20 minutes to get)
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#3 Apr 15 2012 at 2:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yes, it works, but the lowbie has to get at least 1 EXP from the mob for it to count. If the lowbie is too low, the highest level character in the party is too high level over the target mob, or there are too many people in the party, it's possible for them to not get any EXP at all despite the mob being at least Easy Prey to the highest level party member. In this case, the lowbie either needs to level up more, a higher level prey needs to be found, the highest level in the party needs to be lowered, or the party size needs to be reduced.

Edited, Apr 15th 2012 4:56am by Fynlar
#4 Apr 15 2012 at 3:13 AM Rating: Good
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Ah, figured it was something like that. It doesn't take long to burn through some lower levels, so wasn't a big issue for me. Just thought it be easy to work on some merits and npc levels while getting some free xp on my alt as an after thought. I'll probably just work it up to lv20 and park it while I work on one of my lv40/50 jobs. Should be good at that point. Thanks for the info.
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#5 Apr 15 2012 at 4:34 AM Rating: Decent
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it works with a lvl 1 in Zeruhn Mines with an lvl 87 doin the killing
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My recommendation is to just solo to at least level 10. Levels 1-7 can be done in an hour and levels 8-10 in a second hour. 10 is the level at which level sync is supposed to begin, anyway.

I believe level 8 was the calculated level to receive exp in Bostineaux Obliette, iirc.

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Helped a friend level his DNC sub in the Mines. He started at 1, but couldn't get EXP from the high end mobs with me being 95+. He was able to get pages for the lowbie mobs and just level pretty quickly there. Eventually wound up getting him to 49 and I finally got the stupid skill up ring. :/
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I believe level 8 was the calculated level to receive exp in Bostineaux Obliette, iirc.

Per the link I gave, yes, but it might have gone up to level 9 or 10 if you have a 99 instead of only a 95 in your party and that's only with a single party. Once you add that seventh man it jumps to somewhere in the low 20s and climbs to 28-30 as you fill out the alliance further. I don't feel like mathing it right now.

Get to 15, keep a double Exp ring handy (10th Anniversary is coming up actually) and one charge will keep you getting 1 exp no matter what for the 12 hours or so it lasts (unless you do manage to run off 3k exp at 1-20 exp per kill).
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If you have enough people willing to go grind for you to leech GoV, why not just throw the same people into abyssea and get even more EXP?

If you're just trying to 'solo' grind for an alt, you may actually be better off just joining the relevant GoV party for your level. I imagine a Crawler's Nest alliance is faster than 'one guy soloing leeches', but of course YMMV.
#12 Apr 16 2012 at 1:35 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks Raelix for the info. Yea, busting some FoV outside Windy is no issue at all. I'll just pop up to 10 on it while doing that starter quest series (cause I like quests). Really, my goal was just random merit/weapon skilling/brown chest bashing and thought "hey, might as well get some free xp on this alt" and thought it odd that no cedit was given.

I'd join some groups if I had time, but my schedule can be pretty wack. I'd ask some friends but with all the server mergers and what-not over the years, they've pretty much all quit (mind you we've all been playing since either NA release or earlier). Just thought I'd chill out in an empty zone.
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If you have enough people willing to go grind for you to leech GoV, why not just throw the same people into abyssea and get even more EXP?


Because you can't go to Abyssea until level 30.
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If you have enough people willing to go grind for you to leech GoV, why not just throw the same people into abyssea and get even more EXP?


Because you can't go to Abyssea until level 30.


Also cause for short sessions, especially solo, the page bonuses will crap all over abyssea exp for a low level char. You also don't need to worry about chests, TEs or other random crap. Nor do you have to waste yer mule's stones.
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Fun fact: Even if you average 10exp of 'trickle' for 300 kills to finally blow your Anni ring charge down you'll have gone from level 15 to level 40 or 41 just on the page exp.

Bost*tab* is easily the best and fastest leeching exp. If you're below level 60 in Abyssea it takes easily half an hour just to start seeing even 1 exp per kill, in Bost*tab* you'd be dinging off every other page already without having to rely on camping the NPC every five kills.

I think in that linked thread I broke it down that just a decent group could roll 195k/hr down there, and that's for anyone over just level 15 or a little higher without certain preparations. Beats the hell out of getting trickle exp for the first two hours of an abyssea run just for it to fail to TE and crash.
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#16 Apr 17 2012 at 4:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Raelix wrote:
Bost*tab* is easily the best and fastest leeching exp. If you're below level 60 in Abyssea it takes easily half an hour just to start seeing even 1 exp per kill, in Bost*tab* you'd be dinging off every other page already without having to rely on camping the NPC every five kills.

I wish people would do Bost*.* pg 4 more on Sylph. As it is, only the JPs do it. Everyone else just keeps coming back to CN well into the 90s, even when Abyssea would be better. My best option is to wake up at 5 or 6 AM and get in an hour or two before leaving for work.
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If you're below level 60 in Abyssea it takes easily half an hour just to start seeing even 1 exp per kill,


Doing it wrong.
#18 Apr 17 2012 at 7:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you're below level 60 in Abyssea it takes easily half an hour just to start seeing even 1 exp per kill,


Doing it wrong.

Well otherwise you're camping an NPC for pages until your group wanders too far out of range, and then they bitch at you for not opening chests.

Not to mention the normal Dominion camps are so overcrowded with dickish soloists and such that the page rate is pretty much halved.

This leads to going to the good camps, like Puks, where pages aren't involved and it's just a raw slaughterfest of densely packed mobs for actually better exp, but there's still that long period at the start for sub-60 members where they get nothing at all per kill, usually because they're derps and not opening golden lights though...

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Well otherwise you're camping an NPC for pages until your group wanders too far out of range, and then they bitch at you for not opening chests.


Most of my EXP in Abyssea, even post-Heroes, has been done without pages, because other than the doll camp most of the pages just plain suck (either they are worth too little, have to run too far to get them, or both). And of course, everyone else knows that, so the doll camp is almost always packed and unusable.


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This leads to going to the good camps, like Puks, where pages aren't involved and it's just a raw slaughterfest of densely packed mobs for actually better exp, but there's still that long period at the start for sub-60 members where they get nothing at all per kill, usually because they're derps and not opening golden lights though...


Well, there's your problem >_> (Don't forget ebon lights as well)

What I usually do when I solo/lowman EXP is build up ruby immediately to the point where I'm getting tier 4 and 5 red boxes to drop. (The exact amount required for this varies depending on zone and how many prosperity abyssites you have, so I can't give an exact figure) The tier 4 boxes are for getting intense azure lights (+64 azure) because I often do not have the luxury of having a caster to get azure with, and I'm too lazy to dual box a mage job in there just to get azure.
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Well otherwise you're camping an NPC for pages until your group wanders too far out of range, and then they bitch at you for not opening chests.


Most of my EXP in Abyssea, even post-Heroes, has been done without pages, because other than the doll camp most of the pages just plain suck (either they are worth too little, have to run too far to get them, or both). And of course, everyone else knows that, so the doll camp is almost always packed and unusable.



Maybe this falls under "worth too little" but I actually always wondered why more people don't do the ulegrand page with the raptors... they link nicely, die quickly, are right beside the dom ops guy. I've thought maybe it is cause they can paralyze and that's annoying but... /dnc makes that less of a problem (plus I almost always did that page on bst, and it was my pet eating paralyzes anyway)

Also I've never once had a dolls party that was worthwhile, so I just don't get the appeal. They pretty much suck.

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Maybe this falls under "worth too little" but I actually always wondered why more people don't do the ulegrand page with the raptors... they link nicely, die quickly, are right beside the dom ops guy

Because people used to 'Clysm/Cleave those while camping the timed dragon NM for Isgebind, not to mention how fast that dragon would chew through an alliance if they weren't.
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