It's time to let this game goFollow

same experience with me. i was in 2 very successful focused linkshells (dynamis, limbus) for years, and 1 successful general HNMls for a year or two, all of which had several women in them, and none of which ever saw this behavior but for at the most localized of levels (e.g. b/w 2 people). in fact, i can't remember if there were any females in my salvage ls... think there was for awhile...

edit: come to think of it, there was someone trying to set up this kind of dynamic in our dynamis ls. i broke her pearl.

Edited, Feb 18th 2012 3:23am by milich

2 things.

1. You never flirted with me
2. Didn't you post a pic on here with your titties hanging out all over the place?

That was politics though (promise them everything and give them nothing)

This game has a large population of women (I think the taru's draw them to it) but to hell if I pass on gear because they are the opposite sex. just remember, when that gear drops and its time to roll and tanaka puts on his blindfold and puts you both on that scale, you weigh the same to him.

People say a lot of stuff about FFXI's community is not what it used to be and people don't help or people are elitists must not have played other MMO's recently. FFXI's saving grace is it still have one of the best communities of any MMO on the market, rarely do you see arguments or trolling in the local chat and some people are still prone to do random acts of kindness and help a newbie out.

You think this is bad look at the SWTOR forums where people are bitching because they don't have a damage meter so they can't just kick people, or no gearscore and asking why is threat (hate) invisible because they need thier crutches to make themselves feel better than others.

You don't have people spamming you to duel and then calling you baddie every 5 minutes because you don't give a damn about pvp.

FFXI has one of the most respectful communities on the MMO market and if thats any indication of how bad other game communities are, I've tried a few other games, but I came from EQ2 which had such a stellar community as well back in 05, when I play a game like wow or aion I just cringe at how bad society is getting these days.


Edited, Feb 19th 2012 12:35am by Lafaiel

I have been spammed as often as I said, if you haven't then good for you, but I just came back after two years, my last 8 months or so was on aion, and class balance is pretty bad so the OP classes like to spam you so they can one/two shot you just to measure e peen.

@Catwho, I remember when you did that lol, still can't believe you did it, I'm no adolescent male, but I can't say I didn't appreciate the sight. man, that was 3 years ago wasn't it, time flies.


Edited, Feb 19th 2012 1:44am by Lafaiel

Well I'm thinking on returning to this game.

i missed that picture catwho can you post a link :-), i dont even play anymore i just love titties. i knew a girl who would send nekid picts for items in game, funny thing was she had the exact same name as me in the feminist form in RL, i got her to send them to me for being an awesome flirt that when needed can spit game.

in real life no matter how successful a woman is on her own if there is a possibility at gain without any compromise of values or integrity she will use her sexuality to gain an advantage, cause as straight men we are hard wired to fall for it the only variable is his will vs his physical attraction towards her, even if he has no intention of trying to sleep with her. using myself as an example there is a woman i work with who has a body i want to rock, now after seeing here in action i lost the want to sleep with her but she still has a fat ass that allows her to ask a little extra of me without me saying no. flip to another hottie i work with that i wont do sh*t for because she is used to men falling down to give her what she wants, but given the chance i would do my best to make sure she doesnt walk right for the rest of her life.

now that i got the thought of boobs out the way, if legion offers comparable or better gear than VW i might be enticed to comeback to the game. the nostalgia wore off long ago and most of the people i was close to have left but i still liked the game but not enough to sit through excruciating fights over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again for logs and r/ex items i cant or probably will never use(havent seen anything on the purposed ticket thing since it was first brought up).

as a gamer i want to play a game where i feel like a god but still mortal enough to lose abyssea came close to doing this yet instead of expanding on that and working out the details that made it too easy, they took a giant step backwards. if legion can give me decent gear doing a "horde" mode that might be enough to get me to comeback for a bit and see what else they do. otherwise im just gonna be on here trying to convince catwho to show her boobs off again now that i know she showed them ;-)

Let me get this straight. You clearly have access to a computer and the internet, and you have a desire to see boobs...and your plan is to come to ZAM and ask for pics? You realize there are like a million sites out there that are actually geared towards whats you're looking for, right? And you wouldn't creep anyone out in the process?

I'm just...

wat

I find that hard to believe. Just because I often play female characters (but often enough male ones to tell the difference), I can tell that the way people perceive you, even based on character's gender, will affect how helpful they are. If they know the actual gender of the player, then it usually get even worse.

Not that I want the extra attention, mind you; I'm a hardcore solo-artist and will often turn down offer of help just because I'm questioning the motives of the one who offers it...

Also, that doesn't mean you won't get any help when playing male characters or being a male player.

Anyway, just food for thoughts.

I have to agree with that one. In this case my own sister. She was working on one of those multi hit magian weapons where you have to kil 400-600 mobs per trial. She got her BF to let her go afk on /follow while he spent hours killing stuff for her. I don't see how some guys just put up with being used :/


Edited, Mar 13th 2012 11:57pm by Telaki

Not saying anything about free stuff. Just being generally polite, helpful or even friendly.

xfillupurcupx, that sort of comment is unnecessary. Refrain from trying to ask or beg catwho to send you that picture.

Most guys are nicer to female characters than male, even if they don't really know what they are dealing with behind the character. It's almost subconscious but the way people communicate with and help is definitely much different if you have a female character.

If you have chars of both sexes the difference is very noticeable. It's not even a matter of guys trying to get with the girl irl or anything, it's just hard wired into most guys to be nice to something that looks pretty..since most female races in XI are made to be as pretty as possible it works really well here.

A girl in an online game always has an easier time of it if they are communicative with others, a girl that wants to use their sex to her advantage can get anything she wants from MMO, whereas a guy would have to work for everything..unless he joined a gay ls or something.. lol. My sister started FFXI a couple of years back and was her first online game she had played, she was amazed by how she gets treated by guys online. I'm always telling her to stop with the needless comments about being female or the overly cute emotes, cause she is basically playing into it and any girl that's played an MMO for more than a few months knows how guys are and commenting on the fact you're a girl is like waving meat in front of a hungry dog.

The worst for abusing this are still usually guys with female chars though.

You rarely get a balanced debate on stuff like this in the environment where the majority of people are still enjoying and playing the game. I actually quit earlier this year. I loved the game a lot and I wish everyone well but until such a point (if there ever is one) as there is new content as opposed to rehashed content, the seven years I put in saw me do pretty much everything in game. There are only so many times you can level a new job, help a new starter, do all the events without going nuts. Don't talk to me about Voidwatch.

That being said, if you're having fun and enjoying yourself - awesome. I stopped because I wasn't. I think the game is running out of time without a sizable commitment from SE and I can't see that coming. Playing FFXI is a unique experience and I don't regret it. Right now though it's not for me because I think it's very slowly winding down.

Female players do have it a bit easier than male players. That type of activity is most common in young teens and new players, but it still happens even in adults and {veteran} players.

A lot of guys are just hardwired to be nice to pretty girls, whether they realize they are doing it or not. It doesn't mean they are going to pass a pool for a girl, but they may be more likely to help that girl when she's stuck on a quest or NM, damsel in distress style. I'd say that is 99% of it. (Semi-relevant video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S0kV_b3IK9M#t=396s)

Some girls (and pretend girls) use that to their advantage as they string guys along. On the other side, there are male players who go along with the white knight game for their own benefits. Working hard for naked pics that you could just find for free online sounds dumb, but I know male players who do that.

Finally, there are the 13 year old boys who are actually and consciously trying to find a girlfriend, and not just after (but certainly wouldn't mind) boobs.

*waves wildly*
Hiiiiiii!

I'm so saying that the next time I screw up a stun.

Maybe it'll become the next "afk, house on fire"

Oh, all this time I thought that was ignorance.

Ignorance is what those Axe ads are geared toward!

I'm sure SE would love for everyone to quit FF11...and move onto FF14. Too bad FF14 has proven to be a dud so far.

If there's nothing for you to do or accomplish, then quit the game. There's no need to suggest that others do the same when they are enjoying the game. For many, it's not just about having the best gear or the most uber character, it's as much about adventuring with others.

I recently returned to the game after playing Skyrim, Oblivion, Dragon Age and etc., and I missed adventuring with others. Many times, I'll set out to farm or fish and my character will stand there, doing nothing for a while, because I'm enjoying a good conversation with my linkshell. While it would be nice to return to the glory days of when things like level sync weren't needed and new expansions were still coming out, I'm happy to see FFXI still going, and I'll be around as long as others are still playing.

wait... XIV has a storyline?

Ugh, I'd have to disagree with you there, sorry. Maybe the weeks of tedious grinding between tiny itty bitty storyline parts blanked the storyline from my memory or something but it seemed pretty generic to me.

Now lore, I could agree with - there are indications of some really interesting lore in the game, but none of it is very well fleshed out into a fulfilling story, in my opinion. Then again could never break the wall of tedious grinding to finish off the story.

Alchemy guild story is pretty good though.

Agreed... they are kind of stuck in a no win scenario.

Do they provide massive new content, new maps, new mobs which not only will take time to download but actually does take time to change. Changing a colour scheme on something is a lot less time consuming than creating brand new stuff.

I didnt enjoy the addons though I thought they were totally pointless and was paying for a piece of gear. Abyssea as much as its reused maps it felt new and if they were new maps instead of Re-Used people would of loved Abyssea even more with or without the level inrease, they could of just expanded the merit groups instead of giving levels.