[dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments (was forum=10) (was forumFollow

*This content is currently in development and may differ in the release version.

Phantom Roll Effect Adjustments

Healer's Roll
Increases the amount of MP recovered while healing -> Enhances potency of "Cure" effect received

 
Roll	Effect Value 
1	+3% 
2	+4% 
3	+12% 
4	+5% 
5	+6% 
6	+7% 
7	+1% 
8	+8% 
9	+9% 
10	+10% 
11	+16% 
Bust	-4% 
Bonus	+4%

Gallant's Roll
Grants a damage reflection effect -> Reduces damage taken

 
Roll	Effect Value 
1	-6 
2	-8 
3	-24 
4	-9 
5	-11 
6	-12 
7	-3 
8	-15 
9	-17 
10	-18 
11	-30 
Bust	+5 
Bonus	-5

Drachen Roll
Enhances magic attack and magic accuracy -> Enhances pet accuracy
This roll is now learnable at level 23 instead of level 52.

 
Roll	Effect Value 
1	+10 
2	+13 
3	+15 
4	+40 
5	+18 
6	+20 
7	+25 
8	+5 
9	+28 
10	+30 
11	+50 
Bust	-15 
Bonus	+15

Puppet's Roll
Enhances pet accuracy -> Enhances magic attack and magic accuracy
This roll is now learnable at level 52 instead of level 23.

 
Roll	Effect Value 
1	+4 
2	+5 
3	+18 
4	+7 
5	+9 
6	+10 
7	+2 
8	+11 
9	+13 
10	+15 
11	+22 
Bust	-8 
Bonus	+8

Phantom Roll Effect Adjustments

Warlock's Roll (Enhances magic accuracy)

 
Roll	Current Effect Value New Effect Value 
1	+2	             +2 
2	+3	             +3 
3	+4	             +4 
4	+10	             +12 
5	+4	             +5 
6	+5	             +6 
7	+6	             +7 
8	+1	             +1 
9	+7	             +8 
10	+7	             +9 
11	+12	             +15 
Bust	-4	             -5 
Bonus	+4	             +5

Beast Roll (Enhances pet attacks)

 
Roll	Current Effect Value	New Effect Value 
1	+12	                +16 
2	+15	                +20 
3	+18	                +24 
4	+48	                +64 
5	+21	                +28 
6	+24	                +32 
7	+30	                +40 
8	+6	                +8 
9	+33	                +44 
10	+36	                +48 
11	+60	                +80 
Bust	-20	                -25 
Bonus	+20	                +25

Choral Roll (Decreases spell interruption rate)

 
Roll	Current Effect Value	New Effect Value 
1	-11	                -13 
2	-43	                -55 
3	-14	                -17 
4	-16	                -20 
5	-19	                -25 
6	-5	                -8 
7	-22	                -30 
8	-27	                -35 
9	-30	                -40 
10	-32	                -45 
11	-54	                -65 
Bust	+20	                +25 
Bonus	-20	                -25

Dancer's Roll (Grants a Regen effect)

 
Roll	Current Effect Value	New Effect Value 
1	+3	                +3 
2	+4	                +4 
3	+11	                +12 
4	+4	                +5 
5	+5	                +6 
6	+6	                +7 
7	+1	                +1 
8	+7	                +8 
9	+8	                +9 
10	+8	                +10 
11	+14	                +16 
Bust	-3	                -4 
Bonus	+3	                +4

only way to really improve their DoT would be to let haste work on ranged attacks.

Because every COR has Wildfire.

A job should only be fun because you've done the trials for Bedlam +1.

I brought up an extreme example of spike damage, that's all. I guess with Wildfire being so broken, it becomes hard to separate DoT from spike damage with a COR that has it...

All I know is that I enjoyed COR up to 75 when I first leveled it back in the day, but I just don't feel the love for it any more, and the proposed changes from SE aren't going to lure me back to it any time soon.

Blah, guess I could try BST/companion's, but we still can't buff companion's roll. And extra TP does pretty much nothing for Ready moves anyway. (Most pets WS at 250 tp every time, anyway.)

Yeah, it's not enough to make me want to drag out my COR junk I muled after I got it to 99. It doesn't fix the fundamentally broken part of the job, which is a lack of DoT as a DDer, and redundancy with BRD as a buffer.

Haste is still king.

Haste is still king.

WF Cor is a fairly broken job in VW, similar to how war is. I would be pretty supsrised if a nerf wasn't coming for wildfire in the same way they are ripping apart Ukon atm. The sheer quantitiy of weapon skills a good WF cor can pump out is pretty insane, don't even have to worry about acc issues.

As a result of the development team’s investigation as well as feedback we received, we will be once again changing the effect of Gallant’s Roll from “damage reduction” to “increased defense.”

This roll’s defense increase effect will increase a character’s defense by a percentage, so characters with already high defense will benefit largely from this.

As a different idea we looked into “physical damage reduction,” but the effect itself increased by a percentage, which made it not possible to make the effect values very large thus creating the concern that the roll itself wouldn’t be too useful. Paladin’s who have a wealth of damage reduction gear would cap out too easily and attackers/back-line jobs would become disproportionate by having this along with other high defense stats, so we determined this to be an unrealistic route.

There are no reason to nerf BST considering this job is not used anywhere else....(maybe WoE...maybe), if they nerf BST in dyna then there won't be a place for this job at all.

Also soloing Abyssea on BST is pointless without proc, it's only good at solo dyna.

For some reason when ppl see BST solo stuff that other job can't, they usually got jealous XD. But that's the reason why SE make this job, no?

Since we didn’t provide enough background information along with our last post, I wanted to inform you all why we decided to change Gallant’s Roll’s effect to defense boost.

We plan on setting the value of the defense boost at around 30% when the highest number is rolled. This boost will be applied to the final defensive value after the effects of gear, abilities and spells are factored in and will reduce physical damage taken. This effect will vary based on the opponent’s strength and the player’s defense stats, but we expect this defense boost to be more significant than the originally planned Phalanx effect. (In addition, players can still reduce damage even further through gear and Phalanx.)

The effects of defense vary based on the opponent’s attack strength, so defense boost is more effective when fighting against stronger opponents compared with Phalanx, which has a fixed damage reduction. Defense boost also has a cumulative effect, which makes it more beneficial to paladins than physical damage reduction which becomes useless once the maximum limit is reached.

Therefore, we decided that making the roll a defense boost would be a more beneficial effect overall.

There have been some comments from players mentioning that they don’t see the point of defense as a stat, so I’d like to go into some detail on it.

As defense increases over an enemy’s attack power, the amount of damage reduced gradually tapers off. If the enemy you are fighting is lower level and your defense is way higher, it becomes more difficult to gain large benefits even if you increase your defense.

In instances where your defense is reduced via an enemy action, where your character’s defense would normally be higher than an enemy’s attack power, and the gap between the two is narrowed, the amount of damage being reduced will start to vary largely. This shows that you’ll take more damage when your defense is lowered, giving meaning to the value of your defense.

Another easy way of feeling the effects of defense is to face off against an even match enemy and compare the damage received with your armor equipped and off.

Since the effects of defense increase as defense is stacked, the benefits are by no means small, so it would be really helpful if we could receive feedback with this in mind.

For reference, Mocchi provided some test data.

Setup

Compared physical damage taken between the following situations when fighting warrior-type monsters that were 15 levels higher than the level 99 PLD/WAR (defense 460) used for testing.


Naked/with Defender active/with Defender active + food effects (black curry bun)

Results

Naked (Defense 460): 245 damage
Defender (Defense 575): 216 damage
Defender + food (Defense 663): 197 damage


Depending on the situation, the numbers may not be the same, but this is simply intended to serve as reference.

This is partly why I've wanted to see RDM get a debuff that affects the level correction values of actions on and taken by the afflicted, basically leveling down a mob and possibly affecting available traits, spells, and TP moves in the process.

Gogo double soulvoice minne + fully meritted Protectra V with sheltered ring + taco + Defender + defense gear + taco + PLD Roll + Sandstorm + Boost-VIT + Bio III + Demoralizing Roar + Drown + Diffusion'd Harden Shell!

I'm kind of shocked there's not more negative reaction here, given that, you know, defense's uselessness after level 50 is of memetic levels, and has been for as long as I've been playing.